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View entire thread: new to group
Posted by Beadbimbo on Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:30 PM    Post subject: Re: New to group



Welcome! Lovely work! -- Jerri www.beadbimbo.com To subscribe to my mailing list, send an e-mail to:
jerri@beadbimbo.com with "Subscribe" in the subject line. <redthreadarts@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154285702.561579.120720@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:6c9f1cce50]Hello - I just breezed in via Google (I
know, not very usenet elite of me. ) I do off-loom beadwork, both elaborate "bead art" and more wearable
small-scale items. I've been beading for some time now and I keep a blog of process, pics, and craft-related tirades at
http://www.redthreadarts.com. There is some self-promotion on there, but I try to make sure it's got some more
informational content as well. You'll find the occasional knit tainting the beadwork there, too. Just enjoying the
group and looking at people's projects and knowledge base. I welcome comments from visitors, if you happen to drop by!
[/quote:6c9f1cce50]


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View entire thread: backing for beading a cabochon
Posted by mermaidscove_com on Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:32 AM    Post subject: Re: backing for beading a cabochon

There is also buckram, it is a type of fabric used in book binding. You can soak it and make into a shape and it'll
restiffen or so I've read. Like for mask making and other sculptural projects. I bought a giant roll of it but haven't
tried it yet. It's supposed to be close to stiff stuff but more economical. Looking at it I'd say it is a much looser
weave that is still fairly stiff, I planned to use it with ultra suede. My guess is that stiff stuff would be better if
you can get it, I'm guessing that buckram will become less stiff as it's handled which beadwork takes a lot of. Once I
try it if it works I'll probably sell it on my website in sheets. I haven't had time to do beadwork in many moons
though. If somebody here would like to ty it and tell me what you think I'll send some to you. It would be most helpful
if you had tried these other things, to compare them. Ingrid


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View entire thread: BFNR
Posted by Shirley Shone on Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:43 PM    Post subject: BFNR

Just to say I have put two pictures up under beadwork on my website to show what I got in my BFNR. I had to take two
because I could not get the detail in on one picture. Shirley -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk
http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk


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View entire thread: BFNR
Posted by Kandice Seeber on Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:17 PM    Post subject: Re: BFNR

Awesome!!! :) -- Kandice Seeber www.lampwork.net Vote for my site! http://tinyurl.com/bbcon "Shirley Shone"
<nospam@allcrafts.area51.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:FRRDNXB8MbiEFwLe@allcrafts.demon.co.uk...
[quote:a2c0fa7556]Just to say I have put two pictures up under beadwork on my website to show what I got in my BFNR. I
had to take two because I could not get the detail in on one picture. Shirley -- Shirley Shone
shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:a2c0fa7556]


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View entire thread: HUG gallery
Posted by Shirley Shone on Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:36 AM    Post subject: Re: HUG gallery

Do you want a close up of the beaded panel I did for the Enschede Quilt. I found one a little while ago. It would take
me a day or two to process it because I am feeling a little fragile. On Monday our 52nd wedding anniversary I sat down
to do some beadwork. Then my heart started thumping and went into irregular beat mode. Then I felt a heaviness in my
chest. DH rushed me to the hospital where I had my bypass and stents done. I had many tests done and was allowed home
yesterday. Fortunately no more damage done to my heart but I am still feeling a bit shaky. So need to take it easy for
a few days. Shirley In message <pE94h.6618$736.1355@newsfe16.phx>, Terbear <kenandteri@yahoo.com> writes
[quote:a9a2d0b62c]Hi everyone, it's Terbear here....very much under the weather. I am off to get some more sleep right
after this post. I have not had RCTQ access from OE for a long time, so I have been using google (not my first choice),
Ken has been back and forth with COX with no results...so, needless to say, I have not been keeping up with much of the
conversations go, sorry.. but I digress, I noticed a FAQ post, and thought this would be a perfect opportunity to point
out the HUG gallery. It can be found here: http://gallery.ppwp.com/gallery/HUGS I also keep the BOM gallery, yet it is
not currently up to date. Anyways, in regards to the HUG gallery, if you are lucky enough to be a recipient of one, but
you don't see a picture of it, please forward on to me at teri@terbear.com if you have made a HUG quilt, and you don't
see a picture of it, can you also forward a picture to me? thanks everyone hugs, Terbear [/quote:a9a2d0b62c] --
Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk


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View entire thread: New beadwork web site
Posted by Spot on Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:52 PM    Post subject: Re: New beadwork web site

I would add some closeups of the cards. It gives the user a good look and an idea of what they would be doing.
Celeste "easybeads" <sales@easybeads.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1162247706.334187.297940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... [quote:b72a2ee58a]Hello, I have recently set up a UK based
web site selling counted beadwork card making kits. I only started doing counted beadwork a year ago but loved it so
much that I soon had loads of designs for all different occasions. It was suggested to me that they would make great
craft kits so I had a go at putting some together. I was so pleased with them that I asked a local craft shop if they
would like to stock some, they bought sixty kits of me which are selling really well. Unfortunately my web site is not
doing so well in the UK. What I would like to know is, would it be worth me opening it up to other countries and has
anyone got any tips on selling abroad. You can visit my site to view all my designs at www.easybeads.co.uk
[/quote:b72a2ee58a]


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View entire thread: New beadwork web site
Posted by Vibrant Jewels on Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:19 AM    Post subject: Re: New beadwork web site

I'm sure someone will tell you to please put AD in front of you sub line... I think the kits are lovely.... It's
relatively easy selling overseas using PayPal... If you did sell in the US, approx how much in $US would the kits
cost? And the postage? I know Global Priority mail from the US is $5 for a small envelope, but you probably could get
several kits in each one - which would be an incentive for me to buy multiples!!! TIA -- Karleen Page Member
International Jewelry Designers Guild (IJDG) Vibrant Jewels: http://www.vibrantjewels.com/jewelry/welcome.htm JustBeads:
http://www.justbeads.com/search/ql.cfm?s=21770 Join our Yahoo Group: vibrantjewels-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
"easybeads" <sales@easybeads.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1162247706.334187.297940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... [quote:03008e7fcc]Hello, I have recently set up a UK based
web site selling counted beadwork card making kits. I only started doing counted beadwork a year ago but loved it so
much that I soon had loads of designs for all different occasions. It was suggested to me that they would make great
craft kits so I had a go at putting some together. I was so pleased with them that I asked a local craft shop if they
would like to stock some, they bought sixty kits of me which are selling really well. Unfortunately my web site is not
doing so well in the UK. What I would like to know is, would it be worth me opening it up to other countries and has
anyone got any tips on selling abroad. You can visit my site to view all my designs at www.easybeads.co.uk
[/quote:03008e7fcc]


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View entire thread: New beadwork web site
Posted by easybeads on Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:35 PM    Post subject: New beadwork web site

Hello, I have recently set up a UK based web site selling counted beadwork card making kits. I only started doing
counted beadwork a year ago but loved it so much that I soon had loads of designs for all different occasions. It was
suggested to me that they would make great craft kits so I had a go at putting some together. I was so pleased with
them that I asked a local craft shop if they would like to stock some, they bought sixty kits of me which are selling
really well. Unfortunately my web site is not doing so well in the UK. What I would like to know is, would it be worth
me opening it up to other countries and has anyone got any tips on selling abroad. You can visit my site to view all my
designs at www.easybeads.co.uk


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View entire thread: fabric question
Posted by Cats on Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:01 AM    Post subject: Re: fabric question

Shirley Do you have a rotary cutter or are you working with scissors? Piecing all comes down to accurate cutting and
accurate seam allowances. Most find that a 1/4" foot on their sewing machine helps. And is there a link to your
web site we can see? Do you have pictures of your work there to share with us? If you have any more questions just
post - someone will pop up with an answer. Actually, you will probably get several answers, not necessarily all the
same LOL -- Cheryl & the Cats o o o o o o ( > Y < ) ( > Y < )
( > Y < ) Enness Boofhead Donut http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest
catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "Shirley Shone" <nospam@allcrafts.area51.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:HD6ChsDqYKJFFwH7@allcrafts.demon.co.uk... : Thanks for your reply. : Many years ago before I finished work I used
to go round the market in : my lunch hour. There was a bedding stall that started selling odds and : ends of material.
So I bought bags of squares that are between 8 and 10 : inch square. I also bought some long lengths of about 3 to 4
yards of : strips which are roughly 4 inches wide. These have the selvage. These : are all poly cotton but I thought
would be okay to have a practice on. : Most are pastel shade with a few floral ones plus some deep pink. : : After
doing the centre beaded panel for the Enschede Quilt I thought : one day I would have a try to make a quilt. I gather
other bits and bobs : together. I put them away and forgot about them. Too busy with my : beadwork, greeting card
making and then computer studies. At the age of : 70 I built my own website and got my Diploma for computer studies. :
: I have just made 76 Christmas cards and have n more jewellery than : anyone else in the village. So I thought I would
find all that fabric : out. : : For a simple project I thought of cutting 6.1/2 inch squares and joining : them
together. : If I got on okay with that I would then maybe make one with banding : between the squares. : Not too
difficult for a start. I have made a graph and when I have : decided on the colours I will plan it. : Shirley : : : : :
: : : : In message <4524a061_2@news.chariot.net.au>, Cats <CATS@NO.SPAM.com> : writes : >Before you cut
what pieces? lol : > : >If you are strip piecing, you cut the strips WITH the : >selvages still on and sew
the strips together (usually : >lining up the selvages straight across at one end of the : >set), and only trim
when you cross-cut your strip sets. : >That way you only trim once to a straight edge and avoid : >waste. So you
do not trim before you cut your strips, but : >you do trim before you cut your piecing shapes/blocks. : > :
>As long as you do NOT incorporate the coarser threads of the : >selvages into your piecing it is probably a
matter of : >preference most times, but try to minimise the number of : >times you "trim" fabric as each
cut reduces the size you : >have to work from. : > : >BTW - most manufacturers have those coarse threads
running : >along both selvages even if the print runs all the way to : >the edge of the fabric. Those thicker
threads will shrink : >at a different rate to the finer threads in the body of the : >fabric, and that will
distort your blocks and the finished : >quilt. So you are not just cutting off the white strip : >because of
appearances. : > : : -- : Shirley Shone : shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk : http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk


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View entire thread: fabric question
Posted by Shirley Shone on Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:40 PM    Post subject: Re: fabric question

In message <1160074775.241629.99370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, Jenn in CA <pleiaden@gmail.com> writes
[quote:ec8ad5c937]Shirley. I want to be you when I grow up. [/quote:ec8ad5c937] Five foot tall and still plump inspite
of losing 32 lbs. LOL [quote:ec8ad5c937] All the stuff you have made is ABSOLUTELY gorgeous and I love the clock your
husband made. He is pretty good with wood. I have several bowls and dishes that he has[/quote:ec8ad5c937] made. If I
need mould for my beadwork I send him down to his workshop to make me some. At the present he is making me an oak
Family Tree box. I researched his Family so he is making a box to put the documents in so they can be passed down.
[quote:ec8ad5c937] Jenn in CA - who CAN'T wait to see what you produce with quilts. [/quote:ec8ad5c937] Do not hold your
breath because I think that will be something I will not excel in. Hugs Shirley [quote:ec8ad5c937] Shirley Shone
wrote: Do you cut the selvages off before cutting the pieces. It does not say in the books that I have. Thanks Shirley
-- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk [/quote:ec8ad5c937] -- Shirley Shone
shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk


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View entire thread: Anybody home?
Posted by The Bookie on Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:43 PM    Post subject: Re: Anybody home?

I crochet, knit, tat, cross stitch ( only a little it gives me a headache), plastic canvas, loomed beadwork, and somew
basic crafting for the garden, you know glue gun stuff. Mostly I crochet though. On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:10:10 -0400,
"DianeLQ" <mama-cat1@cox.net> wrote: "I used to do cross-stitching. Did it for a lot of years, but
my eyes don't "see as well. Plus after I had carpel tunnel surgery in the early 80's, my "hands don't have the
strength they used to have. But I kept trying until I "put most of my stuff away to care for my husband. Mostly
nowadays I stick "with plastic canvas. It seems easier on the eyes and hands. How about you? "Do you do any
other crafts? " "DianeLQ "


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View entire thread: Anybody home?
Posted by DianeLQ on Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:20 AM    Post subject: Re: Anybody home?

You are busy!! My mother did teach me embroidery when I was young. She also tried to teach me knitting, but for some
reason, I could never seem to get it right. Over the years I have tried learning again, but just can't seem to get it. I
am interested in looking into machine embroidery. "The Bookie" <resttk51@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:37dqc2p3aiutfad35ubsud5djmm0uj70ul@4ax.com... [quote:74783b1988]I crochet, knit, tat, cross stitch ( only a little
it gives me a headache), plastic canvas, loomed beadwork, and somew basic crafting for the garden, you know glue gun
stuff. Mostly I crochet though. On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:10:10 -0400, "DianeLQ" <mama-cat1@cox.net wrote:
"I used to do cross-stitching. Did it for a lot of years, but my eyes don't "see as well. Plus after I had
carpel tunnel surgery in the early 80's, my "hands don't have the strength they used to have. But I kept trying
until I "put most of my stuff away to care for my husband. Mostly nowadays I stick "with plastic canvas. It
seems easier on the eyes and hands. How about you? "Do you do any other crafts? " "DianeLQ "
[/quote:74783b1988]


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View entire thread: Some of my scrapbooking work
Posted by whodunit on Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:20 PM    Post subject: Re: Some of my scrapbooking work

jonesy <3 wrote: [quote:b02a54bf4b]Here is a sample of some LOs that I have made this year. I need to improve my
photography of the LOs, but it's a start! Take a look at: http://www.picturetrail.com/photos/jonesy56 Nice! I really
like the beadwork flower![/quote:b02a54bf4b] :-) Carolyne in TX


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View entire thread: Bead design software
Posted by MichaelH on Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:45 AM    Post subject: Re: Bead design software

Wow... I was just posting a message concerning the software I have just written. Check it out. I plan on being able
to do everything you've specified. Play with it and provide suggestions. I would be happy to implement. Let others
know if you like it. I've only got one palette in the program right now, but it's easy enough to create more. I just
haven't had the time to translate rgb values for beads other than the 50 I already have. I'll make sure I add more
soon! http://easybeadpatterns.com Mike Su wrote: [quote:286df10dca]I've been reading through the archives here and
there hasn't been a good discussion on sofware to use for designing beadwork. I've done some searching and also own
several programs. What I am looking for is simple. 1. A chance to download the program for a trial. This is vital as
I've already spent far too much money on programs that I ended up not using. 2. Ease of use. I have two programs that
are almost inpenetrable to use. My benchmark is the cross-stitch program I use (PatternMaker Pro) which would be ideal
for beads if they had a bead palette. I am in the middle of working on one for Delicas but it's a massive undertaking
and only gets done in my very rare spare time. It is also only useful for loomed pieces as the grid is set for
needlework so it's simply a square grid, so no use for anything else. 3. Bead palettes. Yes. That's the one. The big
one. I want to be able to swap between Delicas or seed beads or whatever. They're all based on RGB values anyway so
swapping from one to another is not impossible, it just means that someone has to produce the palettes. If I were
locked away for a month with lots of tea, ginger biscuits and no distractions I'd have them already. 4. Layout. That's
vital. PatternMaker does this nicely, they give a wondrous layout tool. If I could finally convince Scott to put out a
version for beading, I'd be a happy bunny! Anyone have any thoughts on particular programs, pros and cons?
-Su[/quote:286df10dca]


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View entire thread: Bead design software
Posted by Su on Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:58 AM    Post subject: Bead design software

I've been reading through the archives here and there hasn't been a good discussion on sofware to use for designing
beadwork. I've done some searching and also own several programs. What I am looking for is simple. 1. A chance to
download the program for a trial. This is vital as I've already spent far too much money on programs that I ended up
not using. 2. Ease of use. I have two programs that are almost inpenetrable to use. My benchmark is the cross-stitch
program I use (PatternMaker Pro) which would be ideal for beads if they had a bead palette. I am in the middle of
working on one for Delicas but it's a massive undertaking and only gets done in my very rare spare time. It is also
only useful for loomed pieces as the grid is set for needlework so it's simply a square grid, so no use for anything
else. 3. Bead palettes. Yes. That's the one. The big one. I want to be able to swap between Delicas or seed beads or
whatever. They're all based on RGB values anyway so swapping from one to another is not impossible, it just means that
someone has to produce the palettes. If I were locked away for a month with lots of tea, ginger biscuits and no
distractions I'd have them already. 4. Layout. That's vital. PatternMaker does this nicely, they give a wondrous
layout tool. If I could finally convince Scott to put out a version for beading, I'd be a happy bunny! Anyone have any
thoughts on particular programs, pros and cons? -Su


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View entire thread: Treasures, Aikos, Delicas, etc. vs. "regular" seed beads
Posted by Valerie on Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:31 PM    Post subject: Re: Treasures, Aikos, Delicas, etc. vs. "regular" seed beads

And we like to hear! You're so informed about them, even someone who knows a bit about them learns something new from
you. Wanna get coffee so I can pick your brain? lol! -- Valerie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.valeriebeads.com
http://valeriebeads.etsy.com Come join OrphanBeads, sales and trading for the financially challenged beader!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orphanbeads <dreambeadr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1158941547.396299.97480@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... [quote:08869c7d70] monique wrote: The Chinese and Taiwanese
are getting into the act as well Hi Monique, Actually, the Chinese and Taiwanese have been producing seed beads for
many years. But they never come very highly recommended. Not just because of the severe lack of uniformity in shape
and size, but also because the colors aren't very consistent. The process the Taiwanese, for instance, have used to
create their seed beads doesn't allow for a proper melting temperature for the glass, and so the beads tend to be very
"drippy" looking with lots of cracks and fissures in the glass that cut through beading thread like mad. There
is a little "thru the grapevine" going on that the Chinese are working on perfecting this, but so far I
haven't seen it. I understand that these cylinders are often preferred for peyote and square stitch, where it really
helps that all the beads be exactly alike, but I must admit a fondnes for the more donut-y shape of Czech seed beads and
some of the non-cylinder Japanese brands. I think cylinder beads are often more preferred for pictorial pieces in
Peyote and other off-loom stitches. Mostly so that the picture is legible. But any seed bead type, from any country can
be used for a patterned off-loom piece of beadwork. The end result will just have a different "feel" to it.
I think it's all about preference. What do people think--do you think that the traditional shape will get elbowed out
of the market? I think it's pretty unlikely. Seed beads have been around for 1000's of years. They morph over time,
and new versions surface, and some disappear again. But there is always a place for most kinds to remain in constant
use. Some countries have still not ever had an opportunity to work with Japanese seed beads at all. Or maybe in a
limited supply that is gifted to them by a visitor. The Hoichol Indians for instance will continue to prefer Czech beads
for their style of beadwork. The Saraguro woman prefer size 10 Czech seed beads. Many tribes in Africa have perfected
their seed bead work based upon the shape of a Czech seed bead, and I can't see them changing that now after the 1000's
of years of doing it. And then there are all the contemporary beadwork artists who's style or type of beadwork works
best as well with Czech beads. Bead embroidery is a good example of a newly resurfaced style of beading that is best
suited to using beads that are not always completely uniform. Will stores, with limited space or $$ to devote to
inventory, opt for the uniformity and broad palette of Toho, etc? That's possible. Actually, I think most stores with
limited space have a lot of decisions they need to make about what they can and cannot stock. And I think their best
choices for what they carry are based upon what their local market dictates. We stopped carry Czech seed beads about 6
years ago. It broke my heart as I use them often. But my local customers stopped buying them and my Internet customers
had other sources, which made the competition too great for me to justify stocking them. It was all about the business
decision, rather than a personal preference for me. Actually...I'm such an addict that my personal preference would
dictate that I stock every single bead ever known to man....it's my bank account that doesn't seem to agree with this!
LOL I think, if your LBS isn't carrying something you would like them to, you should let them know. They'll never know
these things unless their customers communicate with them. This doesn't mean they'll be able to get everything everyone
wants in stock, but it may help them to make their buying decisions. And if they aren't able to supply you with what
you need, consider the many reasons this may be. You may be the only one asking. Their budget may not allow for it at
this time. They may have limited space. Their competition may carry something similar and they have agreed to not
cross over too much. There are about a dozen more reasons as well.... I love talking about seed beads! Beki
http://www.whimbeads.com [/quote:08869c7d70]


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View entire thread: Treasures, Aikos, Delicas, etc. vs. "regular" seed beads
Posted by Anonymous on Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:12 PM    Post subject: Re: Treasures, Aikos, Delicas, etc. vs. "regular" seed beads

monique wrote: [quote:f6b3d9c84b]The Chinese and Taiwanese are getting into the act as well [/quote:f6b3d9c84b] Hi
Monique, Actually, the Chinese and Taiwanese have been producing seed beads for many years. But they never come very
highly recommended. Not just because of the severe lack of uniformity in shape and size, but also because the colors
aren't very consistent. The process the Taiwanese, for instance, have used to create their seed beads doesn't allow for
a proper melting temperature for the glass, and so the beads tend to be very "drippy" looking with lots of
cracks and fissures in the glass that cut through beading thread like mad. There is a little "thru the
grapevine" going on that the Chinese are working on perfecting this, but so far I haven't seen it.
[quote:f6b3d9c84b] I understand that these cylinders are often preferred for peyote and square stitch, where it really
helps that all the beads be exactly alike, but I must admit a fondnes for the more donut-y shape of Czech seed beads and
some of the non-cylinder Japanese brands. [/quote:f6b3d9c84b] I think cylinder beads are often more preferred for
pictorial pieces in Peyote and other off-loom stitches. Mostly so that the picture is legible. But any seed bead type,
from any country can be used for a patterned off-loom piece of beadwork. The end result will just have a different
"feel" to it. I think it's all about preference. [quote:f6b3d9c84b]What do people think--do you think that
the traditional shape will get elbowed out of the market? [/quote:f6b3d9c84b] I think it's pretty unlikely. Seed beads
have been around for 1000's of years. They morph over time, and new versions surface, and some disappear again. But
there is always a place for most kinds to remain in constant use. Some countries have still not ever had an opportunity
to work with Japanese seed beads at all. Or maybe in a limited supply that is gifted to them by a visitor. The Hoichol
Indians for instance will continue to prefer Czech beads for their style of beadwork. The Saraguro woman prefer size 10
Czech seed beads. Many tribes in Africa have perfected their seed bead work based upon the shape of a Czech seed bead,
and I can't see them changing that now after the 1000's of years of doing it. And then there are all the contemporary
beadwork artists who's style or type of beadwork works best as well with Czech beads. Bead embroidery is a good example
of a newly resurfaced style of beading that is best suited to using beads that are not always completely uniform.
[quote:f6b3d9c84b]Will stores, with limited space or $$ to devote to inventory, opt for the uniformity and broad palette
of Toho, etc? [/quote:f6b3d9c84b] That's possible. Actually, I think most stores with limited space have a lot of
decisions they need to make about what they can and cannot stock. And I think their best choices for what they carry
are based upon what their local market dictates. We stopped carry Czech seed beads about 6 years ago. It broke my
heart as I use them often. But my local customers stopped buying them and my Internet customers had other sources,
which made the competition too great for me to justify stocking them. It was all about the business decision, rather
than a personal preference for me. Actually...I'm such an addict that my personal preference would dictate that I stock
every single bead ever known to man....it's my bank account that doesn't seem to agree with this! LOL I think, if your
LBS isn't carrying something you would like them to, you should let them know. They'll never know these things unless
their customers communicate with them. This doesn't mean they'll be able to get everything everyone wants in stock, but
it may help them to make their buying decisions. And if they aren't able to supply you with what you need, consider the
many reasons this may be. You may be the only one asking. Their budget may not allow for it at this time. They may
have limited space. Their competition may carry something similar and they have agreed to not cross over too much.
There are about a dozen more reasons as well.... I love talking about seed beads! Beki http://www.whimbeads.com


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View entire thread: I am back!!
Posted by Kandice Seeber on Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:00 AM    Post subject: Re: I am back!!

We missed you Shirley - I am so sorry that you're not feeling well. :( I wish I could be there to hug you (gently)
and sit and chat and fix you tea!! -- Kandice Seeber www.lampwork.net Vote for my site! http://tinyurl.com/bbcon
"Shirley Shone" <shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eHsEANDVJ+AFFwss@allcrafts.demon.co.uk... [quote:c596e1909e]I am back with you again.. I have not been well for
some months. It appears that medicine I take to stop my blood from clotting and prevent clots in my stents, has done its
job rather too well. Now my blood as gone very thin and takes ages to clot so after a small accident I ended up with a
massive haematoma and a bruise that covered a large area. I am a bit between the devil and the deep blue sea since I
cannot stop taking them because if I get a clot in my stents it is goodbye Shirley. Between us the doctor and I have
decided that I shall take 1/2 dose and see if that helps. Also with the other side effects of extreme tiredness ,
vertigo and the small bleeds I get in my eyes. I have not felt like doing any crafts lately, however Jerri's Tree of
Life made me look up. I have done two of the pendants and they are on my website under beadwork. URL in signature line.
Hugs Shirley -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:c596e1909e]


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Posted by Valerie on Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:52 AM    Post subject: Re: I am back!!

Oh Shirley (((((hugs))))) I'm so sorry to hear about the meds making life hard for you. :-( The trees are gorgeous
though! I'm glad that you were able to find some strength and joy enough to do those. Much love, -- Valerie
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.valeriebeads.com http://valeriebeads.etsy.com Come join OrphanBeads, sales and
trading for the financially challenged beader! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orphanbeads "Shirley Shone"
<shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:eHsEANDVJ+AFFwss@allcrafts.demon.co.uk...
[quote:f540941ba2]I am back with you again.. I have not been well for some months. It appears that medicine I take to
stop my blood from clotting and prevent clots in my stents, has done its job rather too well. Now my blood as gone
very thin and takes ages to clot so after a small accident I ended up with a massive haematoma and a bruise that covered
a large area. I am a bit between the devil and the deep blue sea since I cannot stop taking them because if I get a clot
in my stents it is goodbye Shirley. Between us the doctor and I have decided that I shall take 1/2 dose and see if that
helps. Also with the other side effects of extreme tiredness , vertigo and the small bleeds I get in my eyes. I have
not felt like doing any crafts lately, however Jerri's Tree of Life made me look up. I have done two of the pendants and
they are on my website under beadwork. URL in signature line. Hugs Shirley -- Shirley Shone
shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:f540941ba2]


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Posted by Vibrant Jewels on Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:09 AM    Post subject: Re: I am back!!

Oh Shirley I'm so sorry! My hubby had problems with clotting/thinning/meds also. Sometimes it's hard to get the dosage
right. Hope you get it straightened out soon! Love & hugs, karleen -- Karleen Page Member International Jewelry
Designers Guild (IJDG) Vibrant Jewels: http://www.vibrantjewels.com/jewelry/welcome.htm JustBeads:
http://www.justbeads.com/search/ql.cfm?s=21770 Join our Yahoo Group: vibrantjewels-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
"Shirley Shone" <shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eHsEANDVJ+AFFwss@allcrafts.demon.co.uk... [quote:b25b1870e0]I am back with you again.. I have not been well for
some months. It appears that medicine I take to stop my blood from clotting and prevent clots in my stents, has done its
job rather too well. Now my blood as gone very thin and takes ages to clot so after a small accident I ended up with a
massive haematoma and a bruise that covered a large area. I am a bit between the devil and the deep blue sea since I
cannot stop taking them because if I get a clot in my stents it is goodbye Shirley. Between us the doctor and I have
decided that I shall take 1/2 dose and see if that helps. Also with the other side effects of extreme tiredness ,
vertigo and the small bleeds I get in my eyes. I have not felt like doing any crafts lately, however Jerri's Tree of
Life made me look up. I have done two of the pendants and they are on my website under beadwork. URL in signature line.
Hugs Shirley -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:b25b1870e0]


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Posted by Beadbimbo on Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:54 PM    Post subject: Re: I am back!!

Shirley, I'm so sorry you've been unwell!! I hope your medication is straightened out now and you're feeling
better. Your trees are wonderful! Aren't they fun? What is the pink stone? I'd love to get some of that one!
I'm thinking a pink and white tree would be really pretty too! -- Jerri www.beadbimbo.com "Shirley Shone"
<shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:eHsEANDVJ+AFFwss@allcrafts.demon.co.uk...
[quote:144c1bccda]I am back with you again.. I have not been well for some months. It appears that medicine I take to
stop my blood from clotting and prevent clots in my stents, has done its job rather too well. Now my blood as gone
very thin and takes ages to clot so after a small accident I ended up with a massive haematoma and a bruise that covered
a large area. I am a bit between the devil and the deep blue sea since I cannot stop taking them because if I get a clot
in my stents it is goodbye Shirley. Between us the doctor and I have decided that I shall take 1/2 dose and see if that
helps. Also with the other side effects of extreme tiredness , vertigo and the small bleeds I get in my eyes. I have
not felt like doing any crafts lately, however Jerri's Tree of Life made me look up. I have done two of the pendants and
they are on my website under beadwork. URL in signature line. Hugs Shirley -- Shirley Shone
shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:144c1bccda]


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View entire thread: OT -- Dammit
Posted by Cheryl on Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:18 AM    Post subject: Re: OT -- Dammit

OH Sooz Dear-- my poor life is just busy, busy, busy. The new house is coming together - I have a new kitchen
installed, new tile on the floor there and the front hall (sans countertop and kitchen sink... sometime next week for
those and the kitchen will be done!) Painted most of the house except the bedrooms and the back hall. Have new toilet
and sinks to install for 2 of the bathrooms.... We start tomorrow on preliminary work converting the back of the garage
to my new lampworking studio.... Need to put up a few window blinds, and do curtains yet.... I still dont' have
everything out of the old condo - and have to clean and paint there once I get it all out - to put it up for sale. All
this working has killed my feet- - got plantar fascitis... owwwww..... No time to do any beadwork, needlework or
anything else right now. If I can get everything settled by 1 October I will be able to relax for the winter... so -
I read - but don't have anything real exciting to post!!!! LOL Cheryl Dr. Sooz wrote: [quote:fca639d011]I'm getting
depressed by how few posts we get on RCB per day. We used to get ZILLIONS -- a laugh a minute. Fer gawd's sake,
lurkers, quit hiding! And everyone else, invite your friends to come to RCB! It used to be so ALIVE here. I know some
blame me for driving others away......I BLAME MYSELF! (No, that's a quote from Ghostbusters......) Anyway, whatever.
Let's get this party started, dammit.[/quote:fca639d011]


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View entire thread: learning stringing
Posted by Linda D. on Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:45 AM    Post subject: Re: learning stringing

Thank for the info Barbara. I did find some Tiger Tail in my stash, along with the appropriate crimps. Today, I
purchased a Beadalon Crimping Plier with a 40% coupon at Michael's and also bought some barrel clasps. Our local
Michael's has Beadalon beading wire. What do you think of it? They have it in a variety of weights and finishes.
thanks...Linda Barbara Forbes-Lyons wrote: [quote:cc6c613040]LInda, Most of us here swear by SoftTouch wire by the
SoftFlex company. You can use practically any sort of bead with it, as long as the wire fits through the holes. As far
as the long necklaces you can make them with a clasp, so they can be twisted and worn shorter or without clasp in an
'endless' style. If you opt for the latter, you will need to hid the crimps you use when you double-back through beads
for the endless style illusion. to do this, use either crimp covers or a Hill Tribe silver bead with a split that you
can gently open to place over the crimp, then close back up. For example, bead number ASB232 on this page
(http://snipurl.com/uahn) can be gently opened, then reclosed using the 'mega' crimping pliers. Barbara Beader and
Polymer Clay Crusader http://www.penguintrax.com and http://www.backseatgrammarian.com Linda D. wrote: Good morning,
I've done some beadwork, including peyote and made amulet bags, bead knitting, bead crochet, etc., but I haven't done
any stringing. I was looking at some of the gorgeous long necklaces that seem to be so "in" these days and
thought I should use some of the beads I have on hand and make a couple for myself. Is there a site where I could get
hints and tips on how to make one? What thread/wire should I use? thanks for your help...Linda[/quote:cc6c613040]


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View entire thread: Beaded beads
Posted by Beadbimbo on Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:18 PM    Post subject: Re: Beaded beads

Love those, Shirley!!!! I saw the article and thought that I didn't have the stuff to make the, but I guess I could
just cut a dowel to fit!! I didn't even think of it! -- Jerri www.beadbimbo.com To subscribe to my mailing list,
send an e-mail to: jerri@beadbimbo.com with "Subscribe" in the subject line. "Shirley Shone"
<nospam@allcrafts.area51.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:bb3kvuAnMhyEFwpP@allcrafts.demon.co.uk...
[quote:06d5818e1a]I liked the beads on the front of the Bead and Button issue number 74. I did not have any felt and
could not wait to buy some then the gluing of the lavender into them. So I asked Dh to make me some wooden ones about
the same size of what the felt ones would be. I have made a few samples and you can see them on my site under beadwork.
URL in my sig. line Shirley -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk
http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:06d5818e1a]


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View entire thread: Brick Stitch earring patterns
Posted by Beadbimbo on Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:15 PM    Post subject: Brick Stitch earring patterns

Ok, apparently I'm terrible at searches, but I remember, a while back, seeing some cute brick stitch patterns on a
site, but since I was so new to seed beading, I didn't mark the site. Now, I can't find them. If you know of a site
with some cute patterns that would be good for earrings, would you let me know? I remember one site that had a bunch
of them, but for the life of me, I can't find it now. (Grrrrrrrrr) I love to look at beadwork for inspiration, and
when I'm searching for seed bead work I've googled: beadwork beaded jewelery (beaded earrings, etc.) seed bead jewelry
Are there any key words I'm missing to search for bead work. I looked at Dr. Sooz's list and all the bead work there is
so (WOW factor!) over my head. I keep looking around for things that I think I can possibly do. Your computerly
inept bead buddy, Jerri www.beadbimbo.com To subscribe to my mailing list, send an e-mail to: jerri@beadbimbo.com with
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Posted by Beadbimbo on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:40 AM    Post subject: Re: Brick Stitch earring patterns

Thanks Maren, I've tried that too. I guess I'll just have to keep digging. -- Jerri www.beadbimbo.com To
subscribe to my mailing list, send an e-mail to: jerri@beadbimbo.com with "Subscribe" in the subject line.
<m.purves@jach.hawaii.edu> wrote in message news:1153879008.246032.193880@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[quote:16810d4534]Beadbimbo wrote: I love to look at beadwork for inspiration, and when I'm searching for seed bead work
I've googled: beadwork beaded jewelery (beaded earrings, etc.) seed bead jewelry Are there any key words I'm missing
to search for bead work. did you try Brick Stitch earring patterns ? Maren Tropical seeds - Job's Tears Jewelry -
Nursery Palms, Etc.: Tropical Plant Seeds - Hand-made Jewelry - Plants & Lilikoi
http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/~maren/palms_etc/ [/quote:16810d4534]


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Posted by Shirley Shone on Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:58 AM    Post subject: Re: Brick Stitch earring patterns

Did you see my things in Barbara's guest artist page. She must like them because they have been there years. LOL Shirley
In message <1154055994.266827.9360@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, mermaidscove_com
<ingrid@mermaidscove.com> writes [quote:cf9e71eb0c]http://www.beadedimages.com/patternsonly.htm
http://www.beadedimages.com/pattern.htm Barbara Elbe has a beadwork site where she has some patterns free and for sale,
they are very cute. I can't find the birds I liked at beadworkpatterns now, I think they might've been by her as well.
[/quote:cf9e71eb0c] -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk


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Posted by Beadbimbo on Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:17 PM    Post subject: Re: Brick Stitch earring patterns

I'd seen her site. Love it! There are some chickadee and some blue jay earrings in gallery #5. -- Jerri
www.beadbimbo.com To subscribe to my mailing list, send an e-mail to: jerri@beadbimbo.com with "Subscribe" in
the subject line. "mermaidscove_com" <ingrid@mermaidscove.com> wrote in message
news:1154055994.266827.9360@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[quote:494ec2308f]http://www.beadedimages.com/patternsonly.htm http://www.beadedimages.com/pattern.htm Barbara Elbe has
a beadwork site where she has some patterns free and for sale, they are very cute. I can't find the birds I liked at
beadworkpatterns now, I think they might've been by her as well. [/quote:494ec2308f]


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Posted by Beadbimbo on Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:17 PM    Post subject: Re: Brick Stitch earring patterns

I did!! -- Jerri www.beadbimbo.com To subscribe to my mailing list, send an e-mail to: jerri@beadbimbo.com with
"Subscribe" in the subject line. "Shirley Shone" <nospam@allcrafts.area51.demon.co.uk> wrote
in message news:BQcSdMAIeayEFwb$@allcrafts.demon.co.uk... [quote:fe4fc5981a]Did you see my things in Barbara's guest
artist page. She must like them because they have been there years. LOL Shirley In message
<1154055994.266827.9360@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, mermaidscove_com <ingrid@mermaidscove.com> writes
http://www.beadedimages.com/patternsonly.htm http://www.beadedimages.com/pattern.htm Barbara Elbe has a beadwork site
where she has some patterns free and for sale, they are very cute. I can't find the birds I liked at beadworkpatterns
now, I think they might've been by her as well. -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk
http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:fe4fc5981a]


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Posted by Jenn/Jalynne on Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:17 PM    Post subject: Re: another Chinese knotted necklace.

Those came out fabulously, Shirley! Too bad you're not closer (or me closer to you) so you could teach me! --
Jenn/Jalynne quilting, beads, scrapbooking, cross stitch and other 'crafti' obsessions
http:/pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jalynne29/my_photos Live! http://kinneykreations.com "Shirley Shone"
<shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:4cAce3AzpmwEFwsE@allcrafts.demon.co.uk...
[quote:7a5960f563]I have made another Chinese knotted necklace using the snake knot. I used random dyed rattail but did
not have enough of it to go completely round. Had to leave the last 2 inch plain, but it feels comfortable I used one of
the shell pendants Harry sent me. Hope you are looking in Harry. It is up on my website under beadwork Shirley --
Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:7a5960f563]


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Posted by Shirley Shone on Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:12 PM    Post subject: another Chinese knotted necklace.

I have made another Chinese knotted necklace using the snake knot. I used random dyed rattail but did not have enough of
it to go completely round. Had to leave the last 2 inch plain, but it feels comfortable I used one of the shell
pendants Harry sent me. Hope you are looking in Harry. It is up on my website under beadwork Shirley -- Shirley Shone
shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk


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Posted by Beadbimbo on Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:05 AM    Post subject: Re: another Chinese knotted necklace.

Wow! That is so neat! Great work! -- Jerri www.beadbimbo.com To subscribe to my mailing list, send an e-mail to:
jerri@beadbimbo.com with "Subscribe" in the subject line. "Shirley Shone"
<shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:4cAce3AzpmwEFwsE@allcrafts.demon.co.uk...
[quote:a9bab6e78a]I have made another Chinese knotted necklace using the snake knot. I used random dyed rattail but did
not have enough of it to go completely round. Had to leave the last 2 inch plain, but it feels comfortable I used one of
the shell pendants Harry sent me. Hope you are looking in Harry. It is up on my website under beadwork Shirley --
Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:a9bab6e78a]


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Posted by Polly S. on Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:15 AM    Post subject: Re: another Chinese knotted necklace.

Shirley Shone wrote: [quote:748d1889a1]I have made another Chinese knotted necklace using the snake knot. I used random
dyed rattail but did not have enough of it to go completely round. Had to leave the last 2 inch plain, but it feels
comfortable I used one of the shell pendants Harry sent me. Hope you are looking in Harry. It is up on my website under
beadwork Shirley [/quote:748d1889a1] Wow! Shirley that's beautiful!!! -- Polly -- don't spook my groove... --


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Posted by Kathy on Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:11 PM    Post subject: Re: another Chinese knotted necklace.

That is very nice. It would be pretty in just black too. KathyH "Shirley Shone"
<shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:4cAce3AzpmwEFwsE@allcrafts.demon.co.uk...
[quote:870a0190c7]I have made another Chinese knotted necklace using the snake knot. I used random dyed rattail but did
not have enough of it to go completely round. Had to leave the last 2 inch plain, but it feels comfortable I used one of
the shell pendants Harry sent me. Hope you are looking in Harry. It is up on my website under beadwork Shirley --
Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:870a0190c7]


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Posted by Shirley Shone on Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:17 PM    Post subject: Re: another Chinese knotted necklace.

Yes it would in black satin rattail. Shirley In message <3SPwg.2$zg.1@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>, Kathy
<mkahogan@imeplace.com> writes [quote:618896a139]That is very nice. It would be pretty in just black too. KathyH
"Shirley Shone" <shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4cAce3AzpmwEFwsE@allcrafts.demon.co.uk... I have made another Chinese knotted necklace using the snake knot. I used
random dyed rattail but did not have enough of it to go completely round. Had to leave the last 2 inch plain, but it
feels comfortable I used one of the shell pendants Harry sent me. Hope you are looking in Harry. It is up on my website
under beadwork Shirley -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk
[/quote:618896a139] -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk


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Posted by Valerie on Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:13 AM    Post subject: Re: another Chinese knotted necklace.

Shirley, The necklace is awesome! You did a great job (but you always do!). -- Valerie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.valeriebeads.com Come join OrphanBeads, sales and trading for the financially challenged beader!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orphanbeads "Shirley Shone" <shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk> wrote in
message news:4cAce3AzpmwEFwsE@allcrafts.demon.co.uk... [quote:8fb7f4a2b4]I have made another Chinese knotted necklace
using the snake knot. I used random dyed rattail but did not have enough of it to go completely round. Had to leave the
last 2 inch plain, but it feels comfortable I used one of the shell pendants Harry sent me. Hope you are looking in
Harry. It is up on my website under beadwork Shirley -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk
http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk[/quote:8fb7f4a2b4]


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View entire thread: well, it's been a while...
Posted by Beadbimbo on Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:47 PM    Post subject: Re: well, it's been a while...

Oooooooooooo! I love the starfish necklace! Everything is great though! I like that last piece a lot, too! --
Jerri www.beadbimbo.com To subscribe to my mailing list, send an e-mail to: jerri@beadbimbo.com with
"Subscribe" in the subject line. <fallen_ikon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151587839.610150.73990@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com... [quote:c3af2ba9ec]It's been ages since I've really shared
what I've been up to lately with the group. So I figured I'd show off a few things I've done over the past few months:
I just put the finishing touches on this one yesterday:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/SerpentsDance/mermaidsgarden1.jpg This one was done with some of Kalera's lovely
lampwork beads: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/SerpentsDance/riverclay.jpg really need to get a better picture
of these.. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/SerpentsDance/iceblink1.jpg I'm turning the beadwork encased
crystals into a new line: a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img
src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/SerpentsDance/quartz.jpg" border="0"
alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a Y'know, I don't know why I didn't learn herringbone
stitch sooner. a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img
src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/SerpentsDance/rosey.jpg" border="0"
alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a whew. so. I have been productive, just haven't been
posting it here all that much. I figured I post something to break up all the ads! -Amber. [/quote:c3af2ba9ec]


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View entire thread: New member and a question about Delica Sample Cards at FMG??
Posted by Willy on Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:11 PM    Post subject: Re: New member and a question about Delica Sample Cards at F

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:21:34 -0400, Barbara Forbes-Lyons <penguintrax@penguintrax.com> wrote:
[quote:716b0fe2ad]I'd call FMG. I know that if you get the cards from www.miyukibeads.com they will be very current.
they release updated cards as new colors are released. Barbara http://www.penguintrax.com and
http://www.backseatgrammarian.com There is a very fine line between a hobby and mental illness. (Dave Barry) Need
quality, inexpensive web hosting with site builder and 50 apps? Check out http://www.lyonshost.com.
MandaBeads@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone! I'm new here - not very new to beading though!! I enjoy all kinds of
beadwork, from simple stringing, to stitched pieces. And I collect beads as well. Any bead/beads that catch my eye.
(At least that's what I tell my DH when I'm buying beads that I have no idea what I'm going to do with!!) And now...
On to my question!! I'm trying to figure out if the Delica Sample Cards available at FireMountainGems has all of the
currently available Delica colors on them. There are only four cards available there, and I want to make sure that I'll
have all the colors on my sample cards. One has 377 colors, one has 177 colors, one has 72 colors, and the last one
doesn't list how many colors it has but it's around $23 so I'm thinking it should have quite a few. Does anyone know??
[/quote:716b0fe2ad] Here is some contact info: Customer Order line, toll-free, 1-800-355-2137 (24 hours a day, 7 days a
week) Customer Service, toll-free, 1-800-423-2319 (M,T,Th,F 6am-9pm, W 6am-2pm and 3:30pm-9pm, Sat 7am-3pm, PST) E-Mail:
Questions@firemtn.com Hope this helps you


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Posted by Barbara Forbes-Lyons on Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:21 PM    Post subject: Re: New member and a question about Delica Sample Cards at F

I'd call FMG. I know that if you get the cards from www.miyukibeads.com they will be very current. they release updated
cards as new colors are released. Barbara http://www.penguintrax.com and http://www.backseatgrammarian.com There is
a very fine line between a hobby and mental illness. (Dave Barry) Need quality, inexpensive web hosting with site
builder and 50 apps? Check out http://www.lyonshost.com. MandaBeads@yahoo.com wrote: [quote:07251f82de]Hello
everyone! I'm new here - not very new to beading though!! I enjoy all kinds of beadwork, from simple stringing, to
stitched pieces. And I collect beads as well. Any bead/beads that catch my eye. (At least that's what I tell my DH
when I'm buying beads that I have no idea what I'm going to do with!!) And now... On to my question!! I'm trying to
figure out if the Delica Sample Cards available at FireMountainGems has all of the currently available Delica colors on
them. There are only four cards available there, and I want to make sure that I'll have all the colors on my sample
cards. One has 377 colors, one has 177 colors, one has 72 colors, and the last one doesn't list how many colors it has
but it's around $23 so I'm thinking it should have quite a few. Does anyone know?? [/quote:07251f82de]


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Posted by Willy on Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:44 PM    Post subject: Re: New member and a question about Delica Sample Cards at F

On 11 Jun 2006 09:18:56 -0700, "MandaBeads@yahoo.com" <MandaBeads@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:72e1256acf]Hello everyone! I'm new here - not very new to beading though!! I enjoy all kinds of beadwork, from
simple stringing, to stitched pieces. And I collect beads as well. Any bead/beads that catch my eye. (At least that's
what I tell my DH when I'm buying beads that I have no idea what I'm going to do with!!) And now... On to my
question!! I'm trying to figure out if the Delica Sample Cards available at FireMountainGems has all of the currently
available Delica colors on them. There are only four cards available there, and I want to make sure that I'll have all
the colors on my sample cards. One has 377 colors, one has 177 colors, one has 72 colors, and the last one doesn't list
how many colors it has but it's around $23 so I'm thinking it should have quite a few. Does anyone know?? I would write
or call FMG and ask them.[/quote:72e1256acf]


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Posted by MandaBeads@yahoo.com on Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:18 PM    Post subject: New member and a question about Delica Sample Cards at FMG??

Hello everyone! I'm new here - not very new to beading though!! I enjoy all kinds of beadwork, from simple stringing,
to stitched pieces. And I collect beads as well. Any bead/beads that catch my eye. (At least that's what I tell my DH
when I'm buying beads that I have no idea what I'm going to do with!!) And now... On to my question!! I'm trying to
figure out if the Delica Sample Cards available at FireMountainGems has all of the currently available Delica colors on
them. There are only four cards available there, and I want to make sure that I'll have all the colors on my sample
cards. One has 377 colors, one has 177 colors, one has 72 colors, and the last one doesn't list how many colors it has
but it's around $23 so I'm thinking it should have quite a few. Does anyone know??


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Posted by crusty521 on Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:24 AM    Post subject: Re: New to bead group

Thanks all. Let you know when I have new bead stuff. Here's an archived posting with beadwork:
http://bingorage.blogspot.com/2006/03/updated-march-7-recent-changes-to-miss.html There's a couple pics of a beaded
bag that I inherited from my mother. Not sure of provenance.


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Posted by Anonymous on Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:42 AM    Post subject: Re: Arthritis!

no idea whether mine is arthtris, carpal tunnel, or what. It started years and years ago when my fingers were swollen
in the morning. At some point I took up sleeping with wrist splints. It doesn't make it go away but it helps. I've been
taking glucosamine and an aspirin a day for a while, and it helps. there are times when I have to stop taking the
aspirin, and for the past week or two my left index finger (I'm left handed) hurt like I'd hit it with a hammer, but
after a week of aspirin (one/day, as an anti-inflammatory, not as a painkiller) it went back to only being numb on one
side (which is how this particular episode started), and now a few days later it's back to whatever Maren calls normal
(i.e. never mind the typos. I got to see the optometrist too when I get back home - another one of the things I didn't
get around to before leaving.) Maren (flaxseed oil? how do you use that?) Sarajane Helm wrote:
[quote:cf7d1ce13a]flaxseed oil and MSM (methylsufanilmethane , or dietary sulfur) both reduce inflammation and help
strenghthen joint mobility. You can do the msm orally and also soak in water with it in it. (sulfur hot springs!) Also
glucosomine and chrondroitin are good for joint issues. I stick with the first too, they make a huge difference for me.
-- Sarajane's Polyclay Gallery Beads-Dolls-Wearable Art http://www.polyclay.com See the progress at "Pieces"
http://www.polyclay.com/store.htm "Gina Bull" <ginabull@virginia.edu> wrote in message
news:e5q67m$rl$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU... I haven't been beading for a while because I thought I had a Repetitive
Stress Injury. It turns out that I have arthritis at the base of my thumb. I'm still waiting to get an appointment with
an Orthopedist ... that may take a while. In the meantime, has anyone else here had to manage this? Do you give up
beadwork (and other hand crafts) or work whenever you can? I'm getting bored of just reading or watching TV at night!
Thanks for any advice, Gina[/quote:cf7d1ce13a]


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Posted by Sarajane Helm on Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:22 PM    Post subject: Re: Arthritis!

I didnt mean to question YOUR usage, Soozala--or ANYBODY's, in that untreated chronic pain is way, WAY worse (and worse
for you) than the the shakes or ear noise. When I need it, I sure am glad to have my vicodin. As you say it sure beats
crying on the floor, and thats where it gets to sometimes otherwise. Sarajane -- Sarajane's Polyclay Gallery Beads-
Dolls-Wearable Art http://www.polyclay.com See the progress at "Pieces" http://www.polyclay.com/store.htm
"Dr. Sooz" <penhall98@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1150057646.664387.152230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [quote:7bc27131d3]I should have said I speak for myself,
regarding the vicodin. I would not have a llife wihout it, literally. I would've spent all my time in bed weeping,
then done myself in. So, as for vicodin, it's a personal choice. I had disastrous, crippling back surgery, and have
had fibromyalgia since the late 1970s (*much* worse since the late 80s). So YMMV, and proceed with caution. ~~Dr. Sooz
Sarajane Helm wrote: I second Sooz's suggestions, but add that watch how often you take vicodin as sometimes repeated
use can give you shaky hands, not good for beading, or ringing in the ears. And booze and sugar are both nasty
inflammatory agents--alcohol and sugar make everything swell up and hurt more than they did before, and though the
immediate lull can be enjoyable, the payment you make for several days after is not. I take my MSM and flaxseed oil
DAILY...and havent had to refill the vicodin scrip in over a year. -- Sarajane's Polyclay Gallery Beads-Dolls-Wearable
Art http://www.polyclay.com See the progress at "Pieces" http://www.polyclay.com/store.htm "Dr.
Sooz" <penhall98@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:1149887590.885630.54680@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I hear you. It's in my spine (has been for 19 years), my big toes (no more sexy shoes), and other places. I get it
from my dad, and from spinal surgery, but so what? If it's there, it's there, and who cares how it got there? ~BORING~
I don't bead at ALL between mid-November and May. Seriously. I *shop*! (That will end soon. No more shopping for me.
<sobbing> But I'd rather have the HOUSE, actually.) Glucosamine with MSM is great. Flaxseed oil!! *VICODIN*.
No booze. ``````````````````````````````````` Gina Bull wrote: I haven't been beading for a while because I thought I
had a Repetitive Stress Injury. It turns out that I have arthritis at the base of my thumb. I'm still waiting to get an
appointment with an Orthopedist ... that may take a while. In the meantime, has anyone else here had to manage this? Do
you give up beadwork (and other hand crafts) or work whenever you can? I'm getting bored of just reading or watching TV
at night! Thanks for any advice, Gina [/quote:7bc27131d3]


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Posted by Dr. Sooz on Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:27 PM    Post subject: Re: Arthritis!

I should have said I speak for myself, regarding the vicodin. I would not have a llife wihout it, literally. I
would've spent all my time in bed weeping, then done myself in. So, as for vicodin, it's a personal choice. I had
disastrous, crippling back surgery, and have had fibromyalgia since the late 1970s (*much* worse since the late 80s). So
YMMV, and proceed with caution. ~~Dr. Sooz Sarajane Helm wrote: [quote:7bcde34090]I second Sooz's suggestions, but add
that watch how often you take vicodin as sometimes repeated use can give you shaky hands, not good for beading, or
ringing in the ears. And booze and sugar are both nasty inflammatory agents--alcohol and sugar make everything swell up
and hurt more than they did before, and though the immediate lull can be enjoyable, the payment you make for several
days after is not. I take my MSM and flaxseed oil DAILY...and havent had to refill the vicodin scrip in over a year. --
Sarajane's Polyclay Gallery Beads-Dolls-Wearable Art http://www.polyclay.com See the progress at "Pieces"
http://www.polyclay.com/store.htm "Dr. Sooz" <penhall98@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1149887590.885630.54680@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... I hear you. It's in my spine (has been for 19 years), my
big toes (no more sexy shoes), and other places. I get it from my dad, and from spinal surgery, but so what? If it's
there, it's there, and who cares how it got there? ~BORING~ I don't bead at ALL between mid-November and May.
Seriously. I *shop*! (That will end soon. No more shopping for me. <sobbing> But I'd rather have the HOUSE,
actually.) Glucosamine with MSM is great. Flaxseed oil!! *VICODIN*. No booze. ```````````````````````````````````
Gina Bull wrote: I haven't been beading for a while because I thought I had a Repetitive Stress Injury. It turns out
that I have arthritis at the base of my thumb. I'm still waiting to get an appointment with an Orthopedist ... that may
take a while. In the meantime, has anyone else here had to manage this? Do you give up beadwork (and other hand crafts)
or work whenever you can? I'm getting bored of just reading or watching TV at night! Thanks for any advice, Gina
[/quote:7bcde34090]


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Posted by Sarajane Helm on Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:04 PM    Post subject: Re: Arthritis!

I second Sooz's suggestions, but add that watch how often you take vicodin as sometimes repeated use can give you shaky
hands, not good for beading, or ringing in the ears. And booze and sugar are both nasty inflammatory agents--alcohol and
sugar make everything swell up and hurt more than they did before, and though the immediate lull can be enjoyable, the
payment you make for several days after is not. I take my MSM and flaxseed oil DAILY...and havent had to refill the
vicodin scrip in over a year. -- Sarajane's Polyclay Gallery Beads-Dolls-Wearable Art http://www.polyclay.com See the
progress at "Pieces" http://www.polyclay.com/store.htm "Dr. Sooz" <penhall98@sbcglobal.net>
wrote in message news:1149887590.885630.54680@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [quote:c7e97e65cd]I hear you. It's in my
spine (has been for 19 years), my big toes (no more sexy shoes), and other places. I get it from my dad, and from
spinal surgery, but so what? If it's there, it's there, and who cares how it got there? ~BORING~ I don't bead at ALL
between mid-November and May. Seriously. I *shop*! (That will end soon. No more shopping for me. <sobbing> But
I'd rather have the HOUSE, actually.) Glucosamine with MSM is great. Flaxseed oil!! *VICODIN*. No booze.
``````````````````````````````````` Gina Bull wrote: I haven't been beading for a while because I thought I had a
Repetitive Stress Injury. It turns out that I have arthritis at the base of my thumb. I'm still waiting to get an
appointment with an Orthopedist ... that may take a while. In the meantime, has anyone else here had to manage this? Do
you give up beadwork (and other hand crafts) or work whenever you can? I'm getting bored of just reading or watching TV
at night! Thanks for any advice, Gina [/quote:c7e97e65cd]


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Posted by Dr. Sooz on Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:13 PM    Post subject: Re: Arthritis!

I hear you. It's in my spine (has been for 19 years), my big toes (no more sexy shoes), and other places. I get it
from my dad, and from spinal surgery, but so what? If it's there, it's there, and who cares how it got there? ~BORING~
I don't bead at ALL between mid-November and May. Seriously. I *shop*! (That will end soon. No more shopping for me.
<sobbing> But I'd rather have the HOUSE, actually.) Glucosamine with MSM is great. Flaxseed oil!! *VICODIN*.
No booze. ``````````````````````````````````` Gina Bull wrote: [quote:254721ddb8]I haven't been beading for a while
because I thought I had a Repetitive Stress Injury. It turns out that I have arthritis at the base of my thumb. I'm
still waiting to get an appointment with an Orthopedist ... that may take a while. In the meantime, has anyone else here
had to manage this? Do you give up beadwork (and other hand crafts) or work whenever you can? I'm getting bored of just
reading or watching TV at night! Thanks for any advice, Gina[/quote:254721ddb8]


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Posted by Sarajane Helm on Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:46 PM    Post subject: Re: Arthritis!

flaxseed oil and MSM (methylsufanilmethane , or dietary sulfur) both reduce inflammation and help strenghthen joint
mobility. You can do the msm orally and also soak in water with it in it. (sulfur hot springs!) Also glucosomine and
chrondroitin are good for joint issues. I stick with the first too, they make a huge difference for me. -- Sarajane's
Polyclay Gallery Beads-Dolls-Wearable Art http://www.polyclay.com See the progress at "Pieces"
http://www.polyclay.com/store.htm "Gina Bull" <ginabull@virginia.edu> wrote in message
news:e5q67m$rl$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU... [quote:afdbf50b51]I haven't been beading for a while because I thought I
had a Repetitive Stress Injury. It turns out that I have arthritis at the base of my thumb. I'm still waiting to get an
appointment with an Orthopedist ... that may take a while. In the meantime, has anyone else here had to manage this? Do
you give up beadwork (and other hand crafts) or work whenever you can? I'm getting bored of just reading or watching TV
at night! Thanks for any advice, Gina[/quote:afdbf50b51]


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Posted by Gina Bull on Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:14 PM    Post subject: Arthritis!

I haven't been beading for a while because I thought I had a Repetitive Stress Injury. It turns out that I have
arthritis at the base of my thumb. I'm still waiting to get an appointment with an Orthopedist ... that may take a
while. In the meantime, has anyone else here had to manage this? Do you give up beadwork (and other hand crafts) or
work whenever you can? I'm getting bored of just reading or watching TV at night! Thanks for any advice, Gina


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Posted by Jenn/Jalynne on Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:18 PM    Post subject: Re: Arthritis!

I developed this problem a couple of years ago, both hands. I just take an anti-inflammatory and keep on workin'. My
orthopedist told me to take ibuprofen and drink lots of water, and to stay active. It'll hurt more on cold, damp
days, but overall, it's not too bad. -- Jenn/Jalynne quilting, beads, scrapbooking, cross stitch and other 'crafti'
obsessions http:/pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jalynne29/my_photos Live! http://kinneykreations.com "Gina Bull"
<ginabull@virginia.edu> wrote in message news:e5q67m$rl$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU... [quote:e18959c366]I haven't
been beading for a while because I thought I had a Repetitive Stress Injury. It turns out that I have arthritis at the
base of my thumb. I'm still waiting to get an appointment with an Orthopedist ... that may take a while. In the
meantime, has anyone else here had to manage this? Do you give up beadwork (and other hand crafts) or work whenever you
can? I'm getting bored of just reading or watching TV at night! Thanks for any advice, Gina[/quote:e18959c366]


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Posted by cbruce on Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:15 AM    Post subject: Re: new ebay store selling rosaries and prayer beads

I wish you the best. But your intuitive sense was correct..... It is rude. _______________________ Bill wrote:
[quote:8930cb1df7]Hi Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this list. I've opened up an ebay store
for my beadwork - mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. Here is the URL http://stores.ebay.com/
Flossies-Beads-and-Fancies besides the beadwork already on the site, I can also make special orders. Thanks!
Flossie[/quote:8930cb1df7]


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Posted by •R L Measures on Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:52 PM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

In article <Mb%fg.450$lf4.24@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
wrote: [quote:06daa2f572]".R L Measures" wrote in message news:r-0206060458160001@192.168.1.100... In
article"Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: "Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures"
wrote: "Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: In article "Andrew" wrote: "Bill"
wrote: Hi Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this list. I've opened up an ebay store for my
beadwork - mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not
found in the Scriptures. If Jesus never used them, why should we? . Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every
Tradition the RCC invents is allegedly auto-rubber stamped.. "The pagans of Rome, and the people of Ephesus in
their worship of Diana (Acts 19:28), all existing before the Roman Catholic Church came into exis- tence, constantly
used beads in reciting their many prayers." Source: Roman Catholicism in the Light of Scripture by Dreyer and
Weller p.137 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ as *** Diana is the Roman goddess of sex. That
beads would play a role in venerating her comes as no surprise since, as I understand it, there are women out there who
insert a string of beads adjacent to their coital partner's prostate gland during early coitus and leave a few hanging
out. When she senses that the male is on the verge of ejaculating, she pulls the string of beads out rapidly to
stimulate the prostate gland and increase the volume of semen pumped out. I have it on good authority that some women
can sense the difference in volume with the nerves in their cervix, and that the feeling is not unpleasant. This
should be a surprise to many Catholics, and I'm sure they would never use their beads for such carnal, pagan and unholy
purposes. *** Not a very sound wager when repentace and absolution is as near as the local Confessional Box. I can't
imagine a parishioner confessing such a thing to a priest. Also, if the priest is hetero, other possibilities are
undoubtedly there. No, the priests are under strict vows of celibacy. *** When a friend was considering going to a
Jesuit college in New York, he asked the two interviewers about how serious the church was about its vow not to have sex
with women, he was told that he would be expected to be discrete. I suspect the celibacy rule with its unnatural
ramifications may be a factor in these horrible stories we hear about the priests who assault and murder nuns. ***
Murder is a trifle to one who has been saved by the Precious blood of[/quote:06daa2f572] Jesus.
[quote:06daa2f572]"Her body was draped with an altar cloth and posed to suggest she had been sexually
assaulted." http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2176644,00.html[/quote:06daa2f572] *** Damn. When is
the movie scheduled to start shooting? [quote:06daa2f572] "She had been grabbed from behind and choked ..Prosecutor
Dean Mantros said that Robinson pushed up the nun's robe and yanked down her pantyhose, girdle and underwear."
http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=129148&region=4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is
better to marry than to burn." 1 Cor 7:9[/quote:06daa2f572]


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Posted by Andrew on Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:11 PM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

".R L Measures" wrote in message news:r-0206060458160001@192.168.1.100... [quote:4859a3ec40]In
article"Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: "Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures"
wrote: "Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: In article "Andrew" wrote: "Bill"
wrote: Hi Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this list. I've opened up an ebay store for my
beadwork - mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not
found in the Scriptures. If Jesus never used them, why should we? . Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every
Tradition the RCC invents is allegedly auto-rubber stamped.. "The pagans of Rome, and the people of Ephesus in
their worship of Diana (Acts 19:28), all existing before the Roman Catholic Church came into exis- tence, constantly
used beads in reciting their many prayers." Source: Roman Catholicism in the Light of Scripture by Dreyer and
Weller p.137 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ as *** Diana is the Roman goddess of sex. That
beads would play a role in venerating her comes as no surprise since, as I understand it, there are women out there who
insert a string of beads adjacent to their coital partner's prostate gland during early coitus and leave a few hanging
out. When she senses that the male is on the verge of ejaculating, she pulls the string of beads out rapidly to
stimulate the prostate gland and increase the volume of semen pumped out. I have it on good authority that some women
can sense the difference in volume with the nerves in their cervix, and that the feeling is not unpleasant. This
should be a surprise to many Catholics, and I'm sure they would never use their beads for such carnal, pagan and unholy
purposes. *** Not a very sound wager when repentace and absolution is as near as the local Confessional Box. I can't
imagine a parishioner confessing such a thing to a priest. Also, if the priest is hetero, other possibilities are
undoubtedly there. No, the priests are under strict vows of celibacy. *** When a friend was considering going to a
Jesuit college in New York, he asked the two interviewers about how serious the church was about its vow not to have sex
with women, he was told that he would be expected to be discrete. [/quote:4859a3ec40] I suspect the celibacy rule with
its unnatural ramifications may be a factor in these horrible stories we hear about the priests who assault and murder
nuns. "Her body was draped with an altar cloth and posed to suggest she had been sexually assaulted."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2176644,00.html "She had been grabbed from behind and choked
..Prosecutor Dean Mantros said that Robinson pushed up the nun's robe and yanked down her pantyhose, girdle and
underwear." http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=129148&region=4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is
better to marry than to burn." 1 Cor 7:9


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Posted by •R L Measures on Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:58 PM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

In article <dKMfg.248$lf4.125@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Andrew"
<andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote: [quote:72813862fe]".R L Measures" wrote in message
news:r-0106061812390001@192.168.1.100... "Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: "Andrew"
wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: In article "Andrew" wrote: "Bill" wrote: Hi Folks, Please
excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork - mainly rosaries
and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not found in the Scriptures. If
Jesus never used them, why should we? . Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every Tradition the RCC invents is
allegedly auto-rubber stamped.. "The pagans of Rome, and the people of Ephesus in their worship of Diana (Acts
19:28), all existing before the Roman Catholic Church came into exis- tence, constantly used beads in reciting their
many prayers." Source: Roman Catholicism in the Light of Scripture by Dreyer and Weller p.137
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ as *** Diana is the Roman goddess of sex. That beads would
play a role in venerating her comes as no surprise since, as I understand it, there are women out there who insert a
string of beads adjacent to their coital partner's prostate gland during early coitus and leave a few hanging out. When
she senses that the male is on the verge of ejaculating, she pulls the string of beads out rapidly to stimulate the
prostate gland and increase the volume of semen pumped out. I have it on good authority that some women can sense the
difference in volume with the nerves in their cervix, and that the feeling is not unpleasant. This should be a
surprise to many Catholics, and I'm sure they would never use their beads for such carnal, pagan and unholy purposes.
*** Not a very sound wager when repentace and absolution is as near as the local Confessional Box. I can't imagine a
parishioner confessing such a thing to a priest. Also, if the priest is hetero, other possibilities are undoubtedly
there. No, the priests are under strict vows of celibacy. [/quote:72813862fe] *** When a friend was considering going
to a Jesuit college in New York, he asked the two interviewers about how serious the church was about its vow not to
have sex with women, he was told that he would be expected to be discrete. [quote:72813862fe] ...[/quote:72813862fe]


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Posted by Andrew on Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:44 AM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

".R L Measures" wrote in message news:r-0106061812390001@192.168.1.100... [quote:ef7b2a655c]"Andrew"
wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: "Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: In article
"Andrew" wrote: "Bill" wrote: Hi Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this
list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork - mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces.
Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not found in the Scriptures. If Jesus never used them, why should we? .
Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every Tradition the RCC invents is allegedly auto-rubber stamped.. "The
pagans of Rome, and the people of Ephesus in their worship of Diana (Acts 19:28), all existing before the Roman Catholic
Church came into exis- tence, constantly used beads in reciting their many prayers." Source: Roman Catholicism in
the Light of Scripture by Dreyer and Weller p.137 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ as ***
Diana is the Roman goddess of sex. That beads would play a role in venerating her comes as no surprise since, as I
understand it, there are women out there who insert a string of beads adjacent to their coital partner's prostate gland
during early coitus and leave a few hanging out. When she senses that the male is on the verge of ejaculating, she pulls
the string of beads out rapidly to stimulate the prostate gland and increase the volume of semen pumped out. I have it
on good authority that some women can sense the difference in volume with the nerves in their cervix, and that the
feeling is not unpleasant. This should be a surprise to many Catholics, and I'm sure they would never use their beads
for such carnal, pagan and unholy purposes. *** Not a very sound wager when repentace and absolution is as near as the
local Confessional Box. [/quote:ef7b2a655c] I can't imagine a parishioner confessing such a thing to a priest.
[quote:ef7b2a655c]Also, if the priest is hetero, other possibilities are undoubtedly there. [/quote:ef7b2a655c] No, the
priests are under strict vows of celibacy. [quote:ef7b2a655c]"The use of beads among pagans is undoubtedly of
greater antiquity than their Christian use" Source: Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02361c.htm *** I wonder if Mary Magdelene was a bead specialist?
cheers[/quote:ef7b2a655c]


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Posted by •R L Measures on Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:12 AM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

In article <2sDfg.10262$y4.913@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Andrew"
<andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote: [quote:575de2f0a2]".R L Measures" wrote in message
news:r-0106060311430001@192.168.1.100... "Andrew" wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: In article
"Andrew" wrote: "Bill" wrote: Hi Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this
list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork - mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces.
Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not found in the Scriptures. If Jesus never used them, why should we? .
Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every Tradition the RCC invents is allegedly auto-rubber stamped.. "The
pagans of Rome, and the people of Ephesus in their worship of Diana (Acts 19:28), all existing before the Roman Catholic
Church came into exis- tence, constantly used beads in reciting their many prayers." Source: Roman Catholicism in
the Light of Scripture by Dreyer and Weller p.137 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ as ***
Diana is the Roman goddess of sex. That beads would play a role in venerating her comes as no surprise since, as I
understand it, there are women out there who insert a string of beads adjacent to their coital partner's prostate gland
during early coitus and leave a few hanging out. When she senses that the male is on the verge of ejaculating, she pulls
the string of beads out rapidly to stimulate the prostate gland and increase the volume of semen pumped out. I have it
on good authority that some women can sense the difference in volume with the nerves in their cervix, and that the
feeling is not unpleasant. This should be a surprise to many Catholics, and I'm sure they would never use their beads
for such carnal, pagan and unholy purposes. *** Not a very sound wager when repentace and absolution is as near
as[/quote:575de2f0a2] the local Confessional Box. Also, if the priest is hetero, other possibilities are undoubtedly
there. [quote:575de2f0a2] "The use of beads among pagans is undoubtedly of greater antiquity than their Christian
use" Source: Catholic Encyclopedia http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02361c.htm *** I wonder if Mary Magdelene was
a bead specialist? cheers[/quote:575de2f0a2]


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Posted by Andrew on Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:10 PM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

".R L Measures" wrote in message news:r-0106060311430001@192.168.1.100... [quote:8929c07652]"Andrew"
wrote: ".R L Measures" wrote: In article "Andrew" wrote: "Bill" wrote: Hi Folks, Please
excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork - mainly rosaries
and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not found in the Scriptures. If
Jesus never used them, why should we? . Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every Tradition the RCC invents is
allegedly auto-rubber stamped.. "The pagans of Rome, and the people of Ephesus in their worship of Diana (Acts
19:28), all existing before the Roman Catholic Church came into exis- tence, constantly used beads in reciting their
many prayers." Source: Roman Catholicism in the Light of Scripture by Dreyer and Weller p.137
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ as *** Diana is the Roman goddess of sex. That beads would
play a role in venerating her comes as no surprise since, as I understand it, there are women out there who insert a
string of beads adjacent to their coital partner's prostate gland during early coitus and leave a few hanging out. When
she senses that the male is on the verge of ejaculating, she pulls the string of beads out rapidly to stimulate the
prostate gland and increase the volume of semen pumped out. I have it on good authority that some women can sense the
difference in volume with the nerves in their cervix, and that the feeling is not unpleasant. [/quote:8929c07652] This
should be a surprise to many Catholics, and I'm sure they would never use their beads for such carnal, pagan and unholy
purposes. [quote:8929c07652]"The use of beads among pagans is undoubtedly of greater antiquity than their
Christian use" Source: Catholic Encyclopedia http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02361c.htm *** I wonder if Mary
Magdelene was a bead specialist? cheers[/quote:8929c07652]


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Posted by •R L Measures on Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:11 AM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

In article <dsrfg.10066$y4.8166@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Andrew"
<andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote: [quote:00a218c9fb]".R L Measures" wrote in message
news:r-3105061639520001@192.168.1.100... In article "Andrew" wrote: "Bill" wrote: Hi Folks, Please
excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork - mainly rosaries
and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not found in the Scriptures. If
Jesus never used them, why should we? . Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every Tradition the RCC invents is
allegedly auto-rubber stamped.. "The pagans of Rome, and the people of Ephesus in their worship of Diana (Acts
19:28), all existing before the Roman Catholic Church came into exis- tence, constantly used beads in reciting their
many prayers." Source: Roman Catholicism in the Light of Scripture by Dreyer and Weller p.137
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ as[/quote:00a218c9fb] *** Diana is the Roman goddess of sex.
That beads would play a role in venerating her comes as no surprise since, as I understand it, there are women out there
who insert a string of beads adjacent to their coital partner's prostate gland during early coitus and leave a few
hanging out. When she senses that the male is on the verge of ejaculating, she pulls the string of beads out rapidly to
stimulate the prostate gland and increase the volume of semen pumped out. I have it on good authority that some women
can sense the difference in volume with the nerves in their cervix, and that the feeling is not unpleasant.
[quote:00a218c9fb]"The use of beads among pagans is undoubtedly of greater antiquity than their Christian use"
Source: Catholic Encyclopedia http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02361c.htm *** I wonder if Mary Magdelene was a bead
specialist?[/quote:00a218c9fb] cheers


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Posted by Andrew on Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:31 AM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

".R L Measures" wrote in message news:r-3105061639520001@192.168.1.100... [quote:563a90827e]In article
"Andrew" wrote: "Bill" wrote: Hi Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this
list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork - mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces.
Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not found in the Scriptures. If Jesus never used them, why should we? .
Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every Tradition the RCC invents is allegedly auto-rubber stamped..
[/quote:563a90827e] "The pagans of Rome, and the people of Ephesus in their worship of Diana (Acts 19:28), all
existing before the Roman Catholic Church came into exis- tence, constantly used beads in reciting their many
prayers." Source: Roman Catholicism in the Light of Scripture by Dreyer and Weller p.137
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The use of beads among pagans is undoubtedly of greater
antiquity than their Christian use" Source: Catholic Encyclopedia http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02361c.htm
[quote:563a90827e]In fact, He specifically told us not to use vain repetitions in prayer as do the heathen. "For
they think that they will be heard for their much speaking." Matt 6:7. . It doesn't matter because every RCC
Tradition trumps anything in the 1st century. We may come to Him just as we are pleading the merits of His great
sacrifice on the cross.[/quote:563a90827e]


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Posted by •R L Measures on Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:39 AM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

In article <KVofg.9987$y4.8633@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Andrew"
<andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote: [quote:38409b838f]"Bill" wrote in message
news:1149085972.639870.134950@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Hi Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate
for this list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork - mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few
necklaces. Prayer beads are of pagan origin and are not found in the Scriptures. If Jesus never used them, why should
we? • Rosary beads were invented in AD1090. Every Tradition the RCC invents[/quote:38409b838f] is allegedly auto-
rubber stamped APPROVED by God-Jesus. Holy beads work so well that even Islam copied the idea. [quote:38409b838f]In
fact, He specifically told us not to use vain repetitions in prayer as do the heathen. "For they think that they
will be heard for their much speaking." Matt 6:7. [/quote:38409b838f] • It doesn't matter because every RCC
Tradition trumps anything in the 1st century. [quote:38409b838f] We may come to Him just as we are pleading the merits
of His great sacrifice on the cross. • It wasn't a bona fide sacrifice because it was not a permanent
loss.[/quote:38409b838f] Paganesque ritual cannibalism was added by Saint Saul/Paul.


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Posted by Andrew on Wed May 31, 2006 11:38 PM    Post subject: Re: selling rosaries and prayer beads

"Bill" wrote in message news:1149085972.639870.134950@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:d49c8986b4]Hi
Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork -
mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. [/quote:d49c8986b4] Prayer beads are of pagan origin and
are not found in the Scriptures. If Jesus never used them, why should we? In fact, He specifically told us not to use
vain repetitions in prayer as do the heathen. "For they think that they will be heard for their much
speaking." Matt 6:7. We may come to Him just as we are pleading the merits of His great sacrifice on the cross.
[quote:d49c8986b4] Flossie [/quote:d49c8986b4] Andrew


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Posted by Zadok on Wed May 31, 2006 8:33 PM    Post subject: Re: new ebay store selling rosaries and prayer beads

"Bill" <> wrote in message [quote:bb5c5a2a23]I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork - mainly
rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. [/quote:bb5c5a2a23] Too fucking bad you didn't read your E-bay
agreement. It forbids advertising on the newsgroups. Now clue in before you get reported!!


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Posted by Bill on Wed May 31, 2006 3:32 PM    Post subject: new ebay store selling rosaries and prayer beads

Hi Folks, Please excuse me if this post is inappropriate for this list. I've opened up an ebay store for my beadwork -
mainly rosaries and other prayer beads; and a few necklaces. Here is the URL http://stores.ebay.com/Flossies-Beads-
and-Fancies besides the beadwork already on the site, I can also make special orders. Thanks! Flossie


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Posted by Shirley Shone on Mon May 22, 2006 6:37 AM    Post subject: Re: A begging letter from Shirley and a long story.

This is a difficult one for me to answer. You are right about fabric, clothes and shoes being to heavy to ship. This is
not an orphanage. These girls live in the villages near the centre JB set up. JB is sending a container of things for
which he has to get clearance from the government. I would take the beads with me or JB and his wife would if I cannot
go. The next trip is early next year. I will ring JB up and ask his thoughts on it. Thanks for thinking of them.
Shirley In message <1148265394.597524.25350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, katieW.
<wisemommy@hotmail.com> writes [quote:3a5a920031]Shirley - What else can we send? Fabric? clothes? shoes? I
suppose some of that would get heavy to ship. Is there a way that I could ship directly from the States to the
Orphanage? That way, too, Folks here in the States could send here, and I can FedEx because I get an obscene
discount...... Just random thoughts. Katie Shirley Shone wrote: About 3 months ago I read an article in a knitting
group. It was from a man who wanted to get hold of some punch cards patterns for knitting machines. I sent him an email
asking about the request. I shall refer to this man as JB. He explained to me that he is a business man further North to
me in UK. He had been to Kenya on holiday and had been troubled by the plight of orphaned teenage girls. He wanted to do
something for them so he set up a small training school so they could learn hairdressing and machine knitting. He sent
them two knitting machines and some sewing machine to do some form of embroidery. They sent him a request for punch card
patterns. Well since I had not used my knitting machine for 9 years, not since my heart bypass, I thought I would take
the chance and clear out my books and patterns, a few hundred pounds worth. I also asked some of my friends if they had
anything to spare. I got a card punch of ebay so they could make their own cards. JB was going to Kenya with his wife
in March so we arranged to meet in a lay-by of a junction on the M1 Motorway. Since the books were to heavy for me to
post. My DH and I met him there and transferred the things to his car. He took hold of my hands and said," may God
truly bless you". I said I wished I could have done more to help them and he said he had looked at my web pages
and was impressed by the beadwork and that maybe that was something else they could do. Then he turned to my DH and
asked if he could take me with them when he visited Kenya next year and he pay my expenses. That is if I was well enough
to go. DH said he did not mind if I wanted to go. I am toying with the idea. My GP said if I was still keeping well she
saw no reason why not providing I took the yellow fever and malaria precautions. I have had communication with the lady
in charge of the centre in Kenya and they are hoping I will go and visit them and pass on my skills in many crafts. From
the photos I have seen of the school I have already been able to help them with the machine knitting. Through a friend
I managed to get all the cones of yarns from a shop closing down for free also two knitting machines plus my own Hague
linker and 3 wool winders. JB and his DW came two weeks ago to pick them up. There must have been about 2000 pounds
worth of things and he is sending them in a container. I also sent some clothing. They filled a large van. Now my
begging bit. I am prepared to show them how to do simply beadwork things like amulets and simple bead weaving but I
cannot afford to pay for a lot of beads. So can I beg here and ask if you have any beads you do not want if you could
consider sending them to me. Even if I do not get chance to go to them JB will take them. I cannot offer to pay for
postage due to my small retirement pension, but I am asking early so you may send them by the cheapest surface route. If
you can help and need my address please email me and put beads in the header. I will reply and send you a picture of the
centre that JB has set up. Once any beads arrive I will send you one of my handmade thank you cards. Thanks and hugs
Shirley -- Shirley Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk [/quote:3a5a920031] -- Shirley
Shone shirley@allcrafts.demon.co.uk http://www.allcrafts.demon.co.uk


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Posted by katieW. on Mon May 22, 2006 3:36 AM    Post subject: Re: A begging letter from Shirley and a long story.

Shirley - What else can we send? Fabric? clothes? shoes? I suppose some of that would get heavy to ship. Is there
a way that I could ship directly from the States to the Orphanage? That way, too, Folks here in the States could send
here, and I can FedEx because I get an obscene discount...... Just random thoughts. Katie Shirley Shone wrote:
[quote:ccd1bc975f]About 3 months ago I read an article in a knitting group. It was from a man who wanted to get hold of
some punch cards patterns for knitting machines. I sent him an email asking about the request. I shall refer to this man
as JB. He explained to me that he is a business man further North to me in UK. He had been to Kenya on holiday and had
been troubled by the plight of orphaned teenage girls. He wanted to do something for them so he set up a small training
school so they could learn hairdressing and machine knitting. He sent them two knitting machines and some sewing machine
to do some form of embroidery. They sent him a request for punch card patterns. Well since I had not used my knitting
machine for 9 years, not since my heart bypass, I thought I would take the chance and clear out my books and patterns, a
few hundred pounds worth. I also asked some of my friends if they had anything to spare. I got a card punch of ebay so
they could make their own cards. JB was going to Kenya with his wife in March so we arranged to meet in a lay-by of a
junction on the M1 Motorway. Since the books were to heavy for me to post. My DH and I met him there and transferred
the things to his car. He took hold of my hands and