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Posted by Lori on Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:32 PM Post subject: Re: gift card size pockets
Those are really good ideas! Thanks. "JRTowner" <JRTowner@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:1155915087.832107.290140@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... [quote:fdefb63eb9] Lori wrote: Does anyone know if there is
a coluzzle or a template for a pocket or envelope for the >size needed for gift cards? I think that would be very
handy for making cards when >giving gift cards as gifts. Thanks, Lori I cut a coordinating piece of cardstock a
little bigger than the gift card. On the top I punch a border and glue it on the other three sides to the card. I've
also done one that I have folded a piece of cardstock around the gift card leaving about two thirds more abovr the end.
I gule the sides together. the top is foled ofer and fancy trimmed I secure it with one or two glue dots. Sometimes I
cut the top a point and glue a small button on top. [/quote:fdefb63eb9]
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Posted by Judy SA on Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:58 PM Post subject: Re: gift card size pockets
Those are cool ideas. TFS Judy, SA "JRTowner" <JRTowner@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:1155915087.832107.290140@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... [quote:21efb4a227] Lori wrote: Does anyone know if there is
a coluzzle or a template for a pocket or envelope for the >size needed for gift cards? I think that would be very
handy for making cards when >giving gift cards as gifts. Thanks, Lori I cut a coordinating piece of cardstock a
little bigger than the gift card. On the top I punch a border and glue it on the other three sides to the card. I've
also done one that I have folded a piece of cardstock around the gift card leaving about two thirds more abovr the end.
I gule the sides together. the top is foled ofer and fancy trimmed I secure it with one or two glue dots. Sometimes I
cut the top a point and glue a small button on top. [/quote:21efb4a227]
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Posted by Michellebell on Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:03 PM Post subject: Re: Card making ideas
Thank you so much for the link Denise! I love making cards and try to never buy them. I's just so much more personal.
I'm going to check out you site now! Thanks for sharing, Michelle P. Smarty wrote: [quote:f9959cf91a]Hi there - I
live in Australia and I was trying to find card making groups to tell people about a new website my card making friends
and I have created. It's dedicated to card makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material. We share our
card making ideas to give other people ideas. What started off as a hobby has now developed into an obsession!!!
Wondering if you would like to check out our website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card making
friends. The address is: www.smartartcards.com and we call ourselves Smart Art Cards! We love it and so does everyone
that has since joined!!!! Cheers Denise Smart Art Cards[/quote:f9959cf91a]
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Posted by M-C on Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:20 PM Post subject: Re: Card making ideas
Alt.crafts.scrapbooks. (ACS) "King's Crown" <qoe@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:42xTg.8096$UG4.4686@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... [quote:b9300460ab]*passing Tammy a cup of coffee and a
waffle with chocolate gravy* We're just getting moving around here too after a night of 15 year old boys having a
sleepover in celebration of my son's birthday. Yes, it's another newsgroup. I peek in from time to time. Lynne
"Tammy in TX" <tmussel11@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159625661.525966.117820@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... ACS? I am guessing that is another newsgroup. (AND if
this is a dumb question I will attribute it to the fact that I just woke up!!!) -Tammy in TX M-C wrote: Just so you
know, Denise has emailed me apologizing. She will now post her ads to the ACS. If you're wondering where most of the ads
have gone, that is where I've been suggesting and obviously I can only suggest that ads not by RCS members be posted,
since not much else happens there. Hope that works for you guys! M-C "M-C" <mccplg@NOSPAMyahoo.DOTcom>
wrote in message news:4o72tjFdchngU1@individual.net... Hi Denise, This is actually an AD as you do sell on your
website, or seemingly intend to. Even your email is Sales @ "If ordering any of our kits, some papers or
embellishments may vary slightly. Every effort will be made to supply you with an exact match to those used on our
website or emails. " Please read our FAQ's at www.r-c-s.info. Thanks M-C "Smarty"
<sales@smartartcards.com> wrote in message news:1159614328.580898.113700@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Hi there -
I live in Australia and I was trying to find card making groups to tell people about a new website my card making
friends and I have created. It's dedicated to card makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material. We
share our card making ideas to give other people ideas. What started off as a hobby has now developed into an
obsession!!! Wondering if you would like to check out our website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card
making friends. The address is: www.smartartcards.com and we call ourselves Smart Art Cards! We love it and so does
everyone that has since joined!!!! Cheers Denise Smart Art Cards [/quote:b9300460ab]
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Posted by Deb in AR on Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:11 PM Post subject: Re: Card making ideas
Coffee? Did someone say coffee? *holds insulated mug of coffee tightly* My coffee...back! Oh wait...that's DH that
steals my coffee. Sorry! DH is gone for a Transformers convention. He left Thursday night. I don't sleep good when
he's gone...kind of living on coffee. LOL ACS = alt.crafts.scrapbooks It's pretty much full of ads. Maybe they
should change it to ads.crafts.scrapbooks? LOL Sorry....that's the coffee talking. -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at
heart! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages
complete 2006 = 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week "King's Crown" <qoe@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:42xTg.8096$UG4.4686@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... [quote:ddca268fee]*passing Tammy a cup of coffee and a
waffle with chocolate gravy* We're just getting moving around here too after a night of 15 year old boys having a
sleepover in celebration of my son's birthday. Yes, it's another newsgroup. I peek in from time to time. Lynne
"Tammy in TX" <tmussel11@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159625661.525966.117820@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... ACS? I am guessing that is another newsgroup. (AND if
this is a dumb question I will attribute it to the fact that I just woke up!!!) -Tammy in TX M-C wrote: Just so you
know, Denise has emailed me apologizing. She will now post her ads to the ACS. If you're wondering where most of the ads
have gone, that is where I've been suggesting and obviously I can only suggest that ads not by RCS members be posted,
since not much else happens there. Hope that works for you guys! M-C "M-C" <mccplg@NOSPAMyahoo.DOTcom>
wrote in message news:4o72tjFdchngU1@individual.net... Hi Denise, This is actually an AD as you do sell on your
website, or seemingly intend to. Even your email is Sales @ "If ordering any of our kits, some papers or
embellishments may vary slightly. Every effort will be made to supply you with an exact match to those used on our
website or emails. " Please read our FAQ's at www.r-c-s.info. Thanks M-C "Smarty"
<sales@smartartcards.com> wrote in message news:1159614328.580898.113700@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Hi there -
I live in Australia and I was trying to find card making groups to tell people about a new website my card making
friends and I have created. It's dedicated to card makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material. We
share our card making ideas to give other people ideas. What started off as a hobby has now developed into an
obsession!!! Wondering if you would like to check out our website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card
making friends. The address is: www.smartartcards.com and we call ourselves Smart Art Cards! We love it and so does
everyone that has since joined!!!! Cheers Denise Smart Art Cards [/quote:ddca268fee]
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Posted by King's Crown on Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:36 PM Post subject: Re: Card making ideas
*passing Tammy a cup of coffee and a waffle with chocolate gravy* We're just getting moving around here too after a
night of 15 year old boys having a sleepover in celebration of my son's birthday. Yes, it's another newsgroup. I peek
in from time to time. Lynne "Tammy in TX" <tmussel11@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159625661.525966.117820@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... [quote:2e84fbe43f]ACS? I am guessing that is another
newsgroup. (AND if this is a dumb question I will attribute it to the fact that I just woke up!!!) -Tammy in TX M-C
wrote: Just so you know, Denise has emailed me apologizing. She will now post her ads to the ACS. If you're wondering
where most of the ads have gone, that is where I've been suggesting and obviously I can only suggest that ads not by RCS
members be posted, since not much else happens there. Hope that works for you guys! M-C "M-C"
<mccplg@NOSPAMyahoo.DOTcom> wrote in message news:4o72tjFdchngU1@individual.net... Hi Denise, This is actually an
AD as you do sell on your website, or seemingly intend to. Even your email is Sales @ "If ordering any of our
kits, some papers or embellishments may vary slightly. Every effort will be made to supply you with an exact match to
those used on our website or emails. " Please read our FAQ's at www.r-c-s.info. Thanks M-C "Smarty"
<sales@smartartcards.com> wrote in message news:1159614328.580898.113700@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Hi there -
I live in Australia and I was trying to find card making groups to tell people about a new website my card making
friends and I have created. It's dedicated to card makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material. We
share our card making ideas to give other people ideas. What started off as a hobby has now developed into an
obsession!!! Wondering if you would like to check out our website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card
making friends. The address is: www.smartartcards.com and we call ourselves Smart Art Cards! We love it and so does
everyone that has since joined!!!! Cheers Denise Smart Art Cards [/quote:2e84fbe43f]
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Posted by Tammy in TX on Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:14 PM Post subject: Re: Card making ideas
ACS? I am guessing that is another newsgroup. (AND if this is a dumb question I will attribute it to the fact that I
just woke up!!!) -Tammy in TX M-C wrote: [quote:394cfb7621]Just so you know, Denise has emailed me apologizing. She
will now post her ads to the ACS. If you're wondering where most of the ads have gone, that is where I've been
suggesting and obviously I can only suggest that ads not by RCS members be posted, since not much else happens there.
Hope that works for you guys! M-C "M-C" <mccplg@NOSPAMyahoo.DOTcom> wrote in message
news:4o72tjFdchngU1@individual.net... Hi Denise, This is actually an AD as you do sell on your website, or seemingly
intend to. Even your email is Sales @ "If ordering any of our kits, some papers or embellishments may vary
slightly. Every effort will be made to supply you with an exact match to those used on our website or emails. "
Please read our FAQ's at www.r-c-s.info. Thanks M-C "Smarty" <sales@smartartcards.com> wrote in
message news:1159614328.580898.113700@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Hi there - I live in Australia and I was trying to
find card making groups to tell people about a new website my card making friends and I have created. It's dedicated to
card makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material. We share our card making ideas to give other people
ideas. What started off as a hobby has now developed into an obsession!!! Wondering if you would like to check out our
website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card making friends. The address is: www.smartartcards.com and
we call ourselves Smart Art Cards! We love it and so does everyone that has since joined!!!! Cheers Denise Smart Art
Cards [/quote:394cfb7621]
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Posted by M-C on Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:16 PM Post subject: Re: Card making ideas
Just so you know, Denise has emailed me apologizing. She will now post her ads to the ACS. If you're wondering where
most of the ads have gone, that is where I've been suggesting and obviously I can only suggest that ads not by RCS
members be posted, since not much else happens there. Hope that works for you guys! M-C "M-C"
<mccplg@NOSPAMyahoo.DOTcom> wrote in message news:4o72tjFdchngU1@individual.net... [quote:6790f0e558]Hi Denise,
This is actually an AD as you do sell on your website, or seemingly intend to. Even your email is Sales @ "If
ordering any of our kits, some papers or embellishments may vary slightly. Every effort will be made to supply you with
an exact match to those used on our website or emails. " Please read our FAQ's at www.r-c-s.info. Thanks M-C
"Smarty" <sales@smartartcards.com> wrote in message
news:1159614328.580898.113700@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Hi there - I live in Australia and I was trying to find
card making groups to tell people about a new website my card making friends and I have created. It's dedicated to card
makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material. We share our card making ideas to give other people ideas.
What started off as a hobby has now developed into an obsession!!! Wondering if you would like to check out our
website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card making friends. The address is: www.smartartcards.com and
we call ourselves Smart Art Cards! We love it and so does everyone that has since joined!!!! Cheers Denise Smart Art
Cards [/quote:6790f0e558]
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Posted by M-C on Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:32 PM Post subject: AD: Card making ideas
Hi Denise, This is actually an AD as you do sell on your website, or seemingly intend to. Even your email is Sales @
"If ordering any of our kits, some papers or embellishments may vary slightly. Every effort will be made to supply
you with an exact match to those used on our website or emails. " Please read our FAQ's at www.r-c-s.info.
Thanks M-C "Smarty" <sales@smartartcards.com> wrote in message
news:1159614328.580898.113700@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:05c23bb921]Hi there - I live in Australia and I was
trying to find card making groups to tell people about a new website my card making friends and I have created. It's
dedicated to card makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material. We share our card making ideas to give
other people ideas. What started off as a hobby has now developed into an obsession!!! Wondering if you would like to
check out our website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card making friends. The address is:
www.smartartcards.com and we call ourselves Smart Art Cards! We love it and so does everyone that has since joined!!!!
Cheers Denise Smart Art Cards [/quote:05c23bb921]
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Posted by Smarty on Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:05 PM Post subject: Card making ideas
Hi there - I live in Australia and I was trying to find card making groups to tell people about a new website my card
making friends and I have created. It's dedicated to card makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material.
We share our card making ideas to give other people ideas. What started off as a hobby has now developed into an
obsession!!! Wondering if you would like to check out our website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card
making friends. The address is: www.smartartcards.com and we call ourselves Smart Art Cards! We love it and so does
everyone that has since joined!!!! Cheers Denise Smart Art Cards
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Posted by Shannon on Wed May 24, 2006 3:12 PM Post subject: Re: Making cards
Thanks for the link, Lynn. I booked it for future use. I love making cards and there was some really cute ideas
there. -- Shannon in Indiana Mother of Logan & Tanner http://community.webshots.com/user/scassady "King's
Crown" <qoe@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:L_rcg.6515$y4.6222@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
[quote:6da1ae1db2]http://www.wilde-ideas.com/Vndrs/Wrds/WildCards.html I have several cards to make in the next few
weeks. I fell in love with the quirky off centered card made with Wilde-Ideas templates. I found the website quite by
accident. I made my own for one design that I have been playing with. Of course my first card I was so excited to mail
it I forgot to take a picture. I'm working on another and believe it or not I had a dream about how to handle a color
problem. Woke up and ran in the craft room instead of waking up the children. Had to get the idea down before I lost
it. Fortunately, it was fast and no one was late for school or had to miss breakfast. Lynne [/quote:6da1ae1db2]
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Posted by Kenda on Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:15 PM Post subject: Re: Christmas cards....make or buy?
1. Yes, I plan on making my cards again this year. Nope not done yet, still don't have any ideas, maybe 'cause I've
been making so many other cards..... 2. Who could that be??? : ) 3. Have the list of people to make for. Don't
have that many as I don't send handmade ones to the people that don't care. 4. I am hoping when I go to SU! Next
month the ladies will be a great source of inspiration!! : ) -- Kenda (Remove NOSPAM to reply) View my projects @:
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 Projects completed for 2006 212 cards 3 mini books 12 LO's 6 quilts 3
beaded braclets "Deb in AR" <bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:i8qZg.15125$vJ2.13506@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... [quote:2eb21ae2d8]1. Yes, I'm making my Christmas cards this
year. A couple years, I've sent out purchased cards to those that, well...really don't care if they have a handmade
card or not. I do have some purchased cards on hand, just in case. LOL 2. No, I haven't started them yet. Why start
early? LOL I know of a gal who, a year ago, already had her Christmas cards done. Not this year, so I don't feel bad.
:-) 3. I haven't made the list yet. I figure I'm looking at about 100. Gotta get a list made and have DH look at it.
I usually either forget someone on the list, or put someone on the list that DH really doesn't want to send a card to or
they won't care if they get one or not. I usually tend to forget people. It's a yearly thing...I make the list, then
DH revises it. LOL 4. I'm not sure if they'll all be the same or make up 2 - 4 different designs. Last year, I
pretty much made them all different. I've planned them one year to do them all the same. All the same was waaaaayyyyyy
too boring for me. Purposely making them all different was tough. So I may try to come up with 2 - 4 designs and make
multiples of those. -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos
Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages complete 2006 = 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week "Deb in AR"
<bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:u0qZg.15122$vJ2.7815@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... So, who's
making Christmas cards this year? If you're making them, have you started? How many do you plan on making? Making
them all the same, or different designs? I'll answer in a new post. :-) -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages complete 2006
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Posted by ChrissyM on Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:47 AM Post subject: Re: Christmas cards....make or buy?
I will be making my own christmas cards this year. I have started on my cards have 2 or 3 made, but its a start.
Haven't made my card list yet. I plain to send christmas cards to my online friends something I haven't done in the
past. I'll probably end up with about 30 cards I would say. I don't make cards for my co workers, I buy a box of cards
after christmas sale so I have plenty. Next Saturday I'm attending a SU Holiday Stamp Camp so I hope to get more ideas.
My DH likes to receive a card that is different from everyone elses. Everyone else don't care if they are the same. I
used to make everyone a completely different card but as the years go by I run out of ideas (because I already used that
stamp set or style already). I'll stick to 3 designs at the most. Chrissy
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Posted by Kenda on Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:07 PM Post subject: Re: (sort of?) Scrapping those picture-less moments
I have to say Deb, the stories you were telling me the other day about DS cracked me up and I think you should do some
layouts. Even some of the stories you told me about you and Brad! ROFL -- Kenda (Remove NOSPAM to reply) View my
projects @: http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 Projects completed for 2006 212 cards 3 mini books 12 LO's
6 quilts 3 beaded braclets "Deb in AR" <bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:HvpZg.15104$vJ2.4360@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... [quote:528e95689d]I'm glad I'm not the only one wanting to do a
picture-less LO. LOL I've gotten some ideas, now to just do it. I've thought about taking a picture of DS, and
cropping it down to just his face, and enlarge it if need be. I'm not sure yet. I may just have to make the time to sit
down and do the LO before it gets away from me. -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages complete 2006
= 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week "Deb in AR" <bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_c9Yg.14643$e66.4989@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... The other night before bedtime, DS was in my lap and we were
doing our "I love you more" thing. Somewhere in there I said "I love you all the way to the sky and
back." DS thought about that and said "I love you all the way to the sky, to heaven, to God and back."
(How cute is that!) Of course, no picture was taken. LOL Have you ever thought about scrapping those pictureless,
priceless, moments? Maybe I could take a picture of him now (which I haven't done in a while), then do a
"Priceless" themed LO. What's the credit card commercial where they list 2 or 3 things and the amount, ending
it with "blah blah blah: priceless"? That's kind of along the lines I'm thinking of. What do you think? Am
I making sense? It may be the coffee talking. LOL -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages complete 2006
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Posted by Deb in AR on Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:56 PM Post subject: Re: (sort of?) Scrapping those picture-less moments
I'm glad I'm not the only one wanting to do a picture-less LO. LOL I've gotten some ideas, now to just do it. I've
thought about taking a picture of DS, and cropping it down to just his face, and enlarge it if need be. I'm not sure
yet. I may just have to make the time to sit down and do the LO before it gets away from me. -- Deb in AR - Desert
Rat at heart! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages
complete 2006 = 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week "Deb in AR" <bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_c9Yg.14643$e66.4989@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... [quote:6afadc73ad]The other night before bedtime, DS was in my
lap and we were doing our "I love you more" thing. Somewhere in there I said "I love you all the way to
the sky and back." DS thought about that and said "I love you all the way to the sky, to heaven, to God and
back." (How cute is that!) Of course, no picture was taken. LOL Have you ever thought about scrapping those
pictureless, priceless, moments? Maybe I could take a picture of him now (which I haven't done in a while), then do a
"Priceless" themed LO. What's the credit card commercial where they list 2 or 3 things and the amount, ending
it with "blah blah blah: priceless"? That's kind of along the lines I'm thinking of. What do you think? Am
I making sense? It may be the coffee talking. LOL -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages complete 2006
= 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week [/quote:6afadc73ad]
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Posted by Julia in MN on Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:01 AM Post subject: Re: Focus on Applique: Simple or Complex and design sour
I've only done a few applique projects, and for the most part they have been published patterns. The one exception is a
wall hanging I made from a set of basket blocks that I won at a guild meeting. There were 7, a difficult number to
work with, so they stayed in a drawer for a couple years while I tried to figure out what to do with them. Then one
day, at a convenience store, I saw a greeting card that showed a quilt that had pieced baskets with appliqued flowers.
This is the result: <http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/RedBaskets.JPG>. Closeups of the baskets are about
halfway down at <http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/Quilts2005.html> Julia in MN Cats wrote:
[quote:a33c6e43de]Interesting topic - but I would also like to hear where people get their design ideas from. Do you
buy patterns, design your own or look at certain things for a motif to use as a basis? Cheryl & the Cats o o
o o o o ( > Y < ) ( > Y < ) ( > Y < ) Enness Boofhead Donut
http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "Debra"
<debnbilll@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:ph4th2t25o3g7q2aag1cr3uurg759bv006@4ax.com... : I'm borrowing
Pat's Focus on Design idea for a series of applique : oriented discussions. I don't know how many I might come up with
but : here is the second one. : (snip). : : My big discussion questions are: : How complex do you like to get with your
applique and why? : I will tackle almost anything but I feel free to change everything lol Long thin points do not
thrill me, nor do tight inwards curves. It's not that I can't do them, they are just too much hard work. I am
basically lazy I think. So I usually try to alter the design/pattern to minimise them. I am not a big fan of iron-on so
that is usually not an option. I have read up on Sharon Schamber's Piecelique technique for curves and long thin points
(pieced, not appliqued) but I haven't tried it yet I am not sure I can be brave enough to glue anything! My favourite
source for designs is fabric prints. I like to hunt for an appealing motif or graphic in a fabric (some only a few cms
in size) and blow them up to HUGE and see what happens. My Kokopelli/lizard quilt has figures on it that are about 2'
high but the fabric print was only about 1 to 1.5". http://tinyurl.com/hdntt When you enlarge on that scale
there are always areas you have to modify to fit the applique method, but it can be fun. The Mardi Gras masks were even
smaller. http://tinyurl.com/jyh73 Sometimes I set the applique panel into a surrounding setting made of the fabric.
That worked for the masks and source fabric, but not for the Kokopelli quilt. It just didn't look right. I think the
change from a light background to a dark one, and the simplification of the designe made them incompatible. The source
fabric was an American Indian "design", but everyone who sees it thinks the quilt is of Australian Aboriginal
figures, probably because I chose warmer red and brown colours in place of the greyer tones in the original fabric
design. It started out as an experiment so Istitched it on a piece of homespun I had laying around in colours I don't
usually like. Then I got nagged into making the experiment into a quilt. Well, the top is done now but I don't think
the quilting will ever get done - at least not by me. The experiment taught me a lot, but the project lost my attention
after that. I have a box full of fabric pieces that have motifs that I would like to "re-engineer" one day.
Border prints are especially good for this. The last one I did I loved, but once I had finished the applique I found I
was not interested in finishing the quilt so I gave it away. The recipient was not a quilter, and she put the panel
into a very simple setting. It would not have been my choice, but she was thrilled with the result so we were both
happy. Here's the border - http://tinyurl.com/nc4fp Here's the medallion that "grew" from it -
http://tinyurl.com/pvruu I also enjoy reworking embroidery designs into applique designs. Crewel embroidery can become
the most wonderful Jacobean applique, and I tend towards Pat Campbells use of bright colours for those. My current
project is a Jacobean Tree of Life over 6' high, but this time I have gone almost monochromatic - golds, browns and
mossy greens. I am thinking of repeating the Rose Sampler Supreme blocks by Rosemary Makhan (sp?) in a monochromatic
latte colour scheme one day. I have some designs in EQ that are in the Webshots album. http://tinyurl.com/fwa7f :
Did you ever start a design that looked simple but turned out to be : hard to do? : Oh heck, yes! All the time! lol
And even if it is simple, I usually manage to alter it to make it complicated. : Have you found a pattern you loved
but the pieces were too hard to : make so you changed the existing pattern to make it easier to : accomplish? All the
time! roflmao Why not?! I often enjoy the design and initial sewing stage (proving to myself that it can be
done the way I have imagined it) more than finishing the piece. That probably explains the large number of UFOs
floating around this place. I rationalise that they make good teaching samples (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to
it!) : Debra in VA : See my quilts at : http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere [/quote:a33c6e43de] --
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Posted by Linda C on Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:01 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
Well, lets see here...a few ongoing projects, a couple of finished projects, and few goals! I just finished and sent
off my ATC cards to Katrina yesterday! Thats one project down, a few more to go! I am in the middle of working on my
titles for the title swap, still have some work to do for the embellishments, and need a trip to HL to be able to do
that! Hope to get it all done in time! I have pics together and ideas in my head for a gift album for my friend at work
who is leaving after working there for 12 years. Her DH is in the Navy, has finished his training and schooling, and
just got his orders for Virginia Beach! I have GOT to get crackin' on that! Her last day at work is the 6th of July, but
they wont be moving until July 20th or so. I also have some notes jotted down, and ideas floating around for a project
I want to do for my DH (late fathers day present or maybe I can get it done for his birthday in September.) I want to
make a 3-D collage/shadowbox/memorabilia box, not sure what to call it..LOL Subject: his Dad, and his life. I want to
use old pics, newspaper articles, and his hobbies, like old antique cars, farming, woodworking, barbershop quartet
singing, things like that. I can see it in my head, but its hard to describe! That will be a major project, as I have to
sweet talk my own dad to make me the box to put it in, AND try to hide it all from DH. My scrap area is IN our bedroom!
I still have page kits put together, left over from what I didn't get done at the Barn! At least I have those to work
on for a quick scrappin' fix! I FINALLY finished my 6x6 album pages for the Barn! That thing is so THICK, I think I
used 3 post extenders! But I am glad THAT is done! I had a lot of trouble putting it all together, and I can't remember
HOW many times I had to take it apart (and cuss) and put it back together (and cuss) before I finally got it right. It
was late at night, and I was tired, thats my excuse! I would like to get some cards made up ahead of time, like Deb
mentioned, but I am always scrambling at the last minute to get one done for someone! I almost hate to buy a card
anymore, when I can make it And always on the back burner, my ongoing heritage album pages for me and my sisters books.
I was reading everyones replies to this subject, and I thought everyone else had so much to do, until I got to thinking
about my own projects..LOL Linda kenda wrote: [quote:e5a65783f2]I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch
pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it.
I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on
my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3
years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we
will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make
things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more
often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the
shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done
when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am
anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1.
cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??)
-- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006:
90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit)
Quilts: 6[/quote:e5a65783f2]
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Posted by Gunner on Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:15 PM Post subject: Re: AN APOLOGY FROM A BUSH VOTER
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:07:52 -0400, NoSpamAllowed <NoSpamAllowed@> wrote: [quote:080c7dd9dd] Not true. A
docudrama is a fictionalized work loosely based upon true history. "Bowling for Columbine" and
"Fahrenheit 9-11" are documentaries in that they accurately portray historical events without fictionalizing.
[/quote:080c7dd9dd] http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=8189
http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowling/ BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE Documentary or Fiction? -David T. Hardy- Michael
Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" won the Oscar for best documentary. Unfortunately, it is not a documentary, by
the Academy's own definition. The injustice here is not so much to the viewer, as to the independent producers of real
documentaries. These struggle in a field which receives but a fraction of the recognition and financing of the
"entertainment industry." They are protected by Academy rules limiting the documentary competition to
nonfiction. Bowling is fiction. It makes its points by deceiving and by misleading the viewer. Statements are made
which are false. Moore leads the reader to draw inferences which he must have known were wrong. Indeed, even speeches
shown on screen are heavily edited, so that sentences are assembled in the speaker's voice, but which were not sentences
he uttered. Bowling uses deception as its primary tool of persuasion and effect. A film which does this may be a
commercial success. It may be entertaining. But it is not a documentary. One need only consult Rule 12 of the rules for
the Academy Award: a documentary is a non-fictional movie. The point is not that Bowling is biased. No, the point is
that Bowling is deliberately, seriously, and consistently deceptive. 1. Willie Horton. The first edition of the webpage
had a section on falsification of the election ad regarding Willie Horton (the convict, not the baseball star). This was
one of the earliest criticisms of Bowling--Ben Fritz caught it back in November, 2002. To illustrate politicians'
(and especially Republican politicians') willingness to play the "race card," Bowling shows what purports to
be a television ad run by George Bush, Sr., in his race against Governor Dukakis. For those who weren't around back then
-- Massachusetts had a "prison furlough" program where prisoners could be given short releases from the clink.
Unfortunately, some of them never came back. Dukakis vetoed legislation which would have forbidden furlough to persons
with "life without parole" sentences for murder, and authorities thereafter furloughed a number of murderers.
Horton, in prison for a brutal stabbing murder, got a furlough, never returned, and then attacked a couple, assaulting
both and raping the woman. His opponents in the presidential race took advantage of the veto. The ad as shown by
Moore begins with a "revolving door" of justice, progresses to a picture of Willie Horton (who is black), and
ends with dramatic subtitle: "Willie Horton released. Then kills again." Fact: Bowling splices together
two different election ads, one run by the Bush campaign (featuring a revolving door, and not even mentioning Horton)
and another run by an independent expenditure campaign (naming Horton, and showing footage from which it can be seen
that he is black). At the end, the ad ala' Moore has the customary note that it was paid for by the Bush-Quayle
campaign. Moore intones "whether you're a psychotic killer or running for president of the United States, the one
thing you can always count on is white America's fear of the black man." There is nothing to reveal that most of
the ad just seen (and all of it that was relevant to Moore's claim) was not the Bush-Quayle ad, which didn't even name
Horton. Fact: Apparently unsatisfied with splicing the ads, Bowling's editors added a subtitle "Willie Horton
released. Then kills again." Fact: Ben Fitz also noted that Bowling's editors didn't bother to research the
events before doctoring the ads. Horton's second arrest was not for murder. (The second set of charges were aggravated
assault and rape). I originally deleted this from the main webpage, because in the VHS version of Bowling Moore had the
decency to remove the misleading footage. But as Brendan Nyhan recently wrote in Spinsanity, he put it back in in the
DVD version! He did make one minor change, switching his edited-in caption to "Willie Horton released. Then rapes a
woman." Obviously Moore had been informed of the Spinsanity criticism. He responded by correcting his own typo, not
by removing the edited in caption, nor by revealing that the ad being shown was not in fact a Bush-Quayle ad. 2. NRA
and the Reaction To Tragedy. A major theme in Bowling is that NRA is callous toward slayings. In order to make this
theme fit the facts, however, Bowling repeatedly distorts the evidence. A. Columbine Shooting/Denver NRA Meeting.
Bowling portrays this with the following sequence: Weeping children outside Columbine; Cut to Charlton Heston
holding a musket and proclaiming "I have only five words for you: 'from my cold, dead, hands'"; Cut to
billboard advertising the meeting, while Moore intones "Just ten days after the Columbine killings, despite the
pleas of a community in mourning, Charlton Heston came to Denver and held a large pro-gun rally for the National Rifle
Association;" Cut to Heston (supposedly) continuing speech... "I have a message from the Mayor, Mr.
Wellington Webb, the Mayor of Denver. He sent me this; it says 'don't come here. We don't want you here.' I say to the
Mayor this is our country, as Americans we're free to travel wherever we want in our broad land. Don't come here? We're
already here!" The portrayal is one of an arrogant protest in response to the deaths -- or, as one reviewer put
it, "it seemed that Charlton Heston and others rushed to Littleton to hold rallies and demonstrations directly
after the tragedy." The portrayal is in fact false. Fact: The Denver event was not a demonstration relating
to Columbine, but an annual meeting (see links below), whose place and date had been fixed years in advance. Fact:
At Denver, the NRA cancelled all events (normally several days of committee meetings, sporting events, dinners, and
rallies) save the annual members' voting meeting -- that could not be cancelled because the state law governing
nonprofits required that it be held. [No way to change location, since under NY law you have to give 10 days' advance
notice of that to the members, there were upwards of 4,000,000 members -- and Columbine happened 11 days before the
scheduled meeting.] As a newspaper reported: In a letter to NRA members Wednesday, President Charlton Heston
and the group's executive vice president, Wayne LaPierre, said all seminars, workshops, luncheons, exhibits by gun
makers and other vendors, and festivities are canceled. All that's left is a members' reception with Rep. J.C.
Watts, R-Okla., and the annual meeting, set for 10 a.m. May 1 in the Colorado Convention Center. Under its
bylaws and New York state law, the NRA must hold an annual meeting. The NRA convention April 30-May 2 was
expected to draw 22,000 members and give the city a $17.9 million economic boost. "But the tragedy in
Littleton last Tuesday calls upon us to take steps, along with dozens of other planned public events, to modify our
schedule to show our profound sympathy and respect for the families and communities in the Denver area in their time of
great loss," Heston and LaPierre wrote. Fact: Heston's "cold dead hands" speech, which leads off
Moore's depiction of the Denver meeting, was not given at Denver after Columbine. It was given a year later in
Charlotte, North Carolina, and was his gesture of gratitude upon his being given a handmade musket, at that annual
meeting. Fact: When Bowling continues on to the speech which Heston did give in Denver, it carefully edits it to
change its theme. Moore's fabrication here cannot be described by any polite term. It is a lie, a fraud, and a
few other things. Carrying it out required a LOT of editing to mislead the viewer, as I will show below. I transcribed
Heston's speech as Moore has it, and compared it to a news agency's transcript, color coding the passages. CLICK HERE
for the comparison, with links to the original transcript. Moore has actually taken audio of seven sentences,
from five different parts of the speech, and a section given in a different speech entirely, and spliced them together.
Each edit is cleverly covered by inserting a still or video footage for a few seconds. First, right after the
weeping victims, Moore puts on Heston's "I have only five words for you . . . cold dead hands" statement,
making it seem directed at them. As noted above, it's actually a thank-you speech given a year later in North Carolina.
Moore then has an interlude -- a visual of a billboard and his narration. This is vital. He can't go directly to
Heston's real Denver speech. If he did that, you might ask why Heston in mid-speech changed from a purple tie and
lavender shirt to a white shirt and red tie, and the background draperies went from maroon to blue. Moore has to
separate the two segments. Moore's second edit (covered by splicing in a pan shot of the crowd) deletes
Heston's announcement that NRA has in fact cancelled most of its meeting: "As you know, we've
cancelled the festivities, the fellowship we normally enjoy at our annual gatherings. This decision has perplexed a few
and inconvenienced thousands. As your president, I apologize for that." Moore then cuts to Heston noting
that Denver's mayor asked NRA not to come, and shows Heston replying "I said to the Mayor: As Americans, we're free
to travel wherever we want in our broad land. Don't come here? We're already here!" as if in defiance.
Actually, Moore put an edit right in the middle of the first sentence, and another at its end! Heston really said (with
reference his own WWII vet status) "I said to the mayor, well, my reply to the mayor is, I volunteered for the war
they wanted me to attend when I was 18 years old. Since then, I've run small errands for my country, from Nigeria to
Vietnam. I know many of you here in this room could say the same thing." Moore cuts it after "I said
to the Mayor" and attaches a sentence from the end of the next paragraph: "As Americans, we're free to travel
wherever we want in our broad land." He hides the deletion by cutting to footage of protestors and a photo of the
Mayor before going back and showing Heston. Moore has Heston then triumphantly announce "Don't come here?
We're already here!" Actually, that sentence is clipped from a segment five paragraphs farther on in the speech.
Again, Moore uses an editing trick to cover the doctoring, switching to a pan shot of the audience as Heston's (edited)
voice continues. What Heston said there was: "NRA members are in city hall, Fort Carson,
NORAD, the Air Force Academy and the Olympic Training Center. And yes, NRA members are surely among the police and fire
and SWAT team heroes who risked their lives to rescue the students at Columbine. Don't come here? We're
already here. This community is our home. Every community in America is our home. We are a 128-year-old fixture of
mainstream America. The Second Amendment ethic of lawful, responsible firearm ownership spans the broadest cross section
of American life imaginable. So, we have the same right as all other citizens to be here. To help shoulder
the grief and share our sorrow and to offer our respectful, reassured voice to the national discourse that has erupted
around this tragedy." "NRA members are, above all, Americans. That means that whatever our
differences, we are respectful of one another and we stand united, especially in adversity." I recently discovered
that Moore has set up a new webpage to respond to a chosen few points of criticism, one of which is his, er, creative
editing of Heston's speech. Click here for a link to his page, and for my response to his attempted defense of what he
did. Basically, Moore contends that he didn't mean for the viewer to get the impression that "cold dead hands"
was spoken at Denver -- that just "appears as Heston is being introduced in narration." B. Mt. Morris
shooting/ Flint rally. Bowling continues by juxtaposing another Heston speech with a school shooting of Kayla Rolland at
Mt. Morris, MI, just north of Flint. Moore makes the claim that "Just as he did after the Columbine shooting,
Charlton Heston showed up in Flint, to have a big pro-gun rally." Fact: Heston's speech was given at a
"get out the vote" rally in Flint, which was held when elections rolled by some eight months after the
shooting ( Feb. 29 vs Oct. 17, 2000). Fact: Bush and Gore were then both in the Flint area, trying to gather votes.
Moore himself had been hosting rallies for Green Party candidate Nader in Flint a few weeks before. Here's the real
setting, as reported in the Detroit Free Press one day after Heston's speech: What do Al Gore, Charlton Heston,
Jesse Jackson, Lee Iacocca, and George W., Laura and Barbara Bush all agree upon? That Michigan is a really big
deal right now. The candidates, their wives, mothers, and pals are here this week, as post-debate spin control ebbs and
political ground control overtakes Michigan with 20 days left to Election Day.....Democratic nominee Gore is to campaign
in Flint tonight; Texas Gov. Bush is to visit a Macomb County factory Thursday. . . . . For Republicans, other
surrogates include former auto executive Lee Iacocca touting Bush at a luncheon today in Troy, and Tuesday's visit by
National Rifle Association President and movie-Moses Charlton Heston. For the Democrats, the Rev. Jesse Jackson
is seeking to mobilize black voters for the Gore ticket Thursday at Detroit's King High School, and Energy Secretary
Bill Richardson will do the same at an Arab-American Chamber of Commerce dinner Friday in Livonia. How does Moore trick
the viewer into believing that this speech, given in this context, was actually a defiant response to a shooting in a
nearby town months before? Moore creates the impression that one event was right after the other so smoothly that I
didn't spot his technique. It was picked up by Richard Rockley, who sent me an email. Moore works by depriving you of
context and guiding your mind to fill the vacuum -- with completely false ideas. It is brilliantly, if unethically,
done,. Let's deconstruct his method. The entire sequence takes barely 40 seconds. Images are flying by so rapidly that
you cannot really think about them, you just form impressions. Shot of Moore comforting Kayla's school principal
after she discusses Kayla's murder. As they turn away, we hear Heston's voice: "From my cold, dead hands."
[Moore is again attibuting it to a speech where it was not uttered.] When Heston becomes visible, he's telling a
group that freedom needs you now, more than ever, to come to its defense. Your impression: Heston is responding to
something urgent, presumably the controversy caused by her death. And he's speaking about it like a fool. Moore:
"Just as he did after the Columbine shooting, Charlton Heston showed up in Flint, to have a big pro-gun
rally." Moore continues on to say that before he came to Flint, Heston had been interviewed by the Georgetown
Hoya about Kayla's death... Why would this be important? Image of Hoya (a student paper) appears on screen,
with highlighting on words of reporter mentioning Kayla Rolland's name, and highlighting on Heston's name (only his
name, not his reply) as he answers. Image is on screen only a few seconds. Ah, you think you spot the relevance: he
obviously was alerted to the case, and that's why be came. And, Moore continues, the case was discussed on Heston's
"own NRA" webpage... Again, your mind seeks relevance.... Image of a webpage for America's First
Freedom (a website for NRA, not for Heston) with text "48 hours after Kayla Rolland was prounced dead"
highlighted and zoomed in on. Your impression: Heston did something 48 hours after she died. Why else would
"his" webpage note this event, whatever it is? What would Heston's action have been? It must have been to go
to Flint and hold the rally. Scene cuts to protestors, including a woman with a Million Moms March t-shirt, who
asks how Heston could come here, she's shocked and appalled, "it's like he's rubbing our face in it." (This
speaker and the protest may be faked, but let's assume for the moment they're real.). This caps your impression. She's
shocked by Heston coming there, 48 hours after the death. He'd hardly be rubbing faces in it if he came there much
later, on a purpose unrelated to the death. The viewer thinks he or she understands .... One reviewer: Heston
"held another NRA rally in Flint, Michigan, just 48 hours after a 6 year old shot and killed a classmate in that
same town." Another:"What was Heston thinking going to into Colorado and Michigan immediately after the
massacres of innocent children?" Let's look at the facts behind the presentation: Heston's speech, with its
sense of urgency, freedom needs you now more than ever before. As noted above, it's actually an election rally, held
weeks before the closest election in American history. Moore: "Just as at Columbine, Heston showed up in Flint
to have a large pro-gun rally." As noted above, it was an election rally actually held eight months later.
Georgetown Hoya interview, with highlighting on reporter mentioning Kayla and on Heston's name where he responds.
What is not highlighted, and impossible to read except by repeating the scene, is that the reporter asks about Kayla and
about the Columbine shooters, and Heston replies only as to the Columbine shooters. There is no indication that he
recognized Kayla Rolland's case. It flashes past in the movie: click here to see it frozen. "His NRA
webpage" with highlighted reference to "48 hours after Kayla Robinson is pronounced dead." Here's where
it gets interesting. Moore zooms in on that phrase so quickly that it blots out the rest of the sentence, and then takes
the image off screen before you can read anything else. (It's clearer in the movie). The page is long gone, but
I finally found an archived version and also a June 2000 usenet posting usenet posting. Guess what the page really said
happened? Not a Heston trip to Flint, but: "48-hours after Kayla Rolland is pronounced dead, Bill Clinton is on The
Today Show telling a sympathetic Katie Couric, "Maybe this tragic death will help."" Nothing to do with
Heston. Incidentally, if you have the DVD version and the right player, you can freeze frame this sequence and see it
yourself. Then go back and freeze frame the rally, and you'll make out various Bush election posters and tags. Yep,
Moore had a reason for zooming in on the 48 hours. The zooming starts instantly, and moves sideways to block out the
rest of the sentence before even the quickest viewer could read it. By the way, when interviewed by a reporter for the
Times of London, Moore had to admit the point: "When I spoke to Moore last week, he confirmed Hardy's point about
the date of the speech, but angrily denied the allegation that he had misled viewers." Link to Times webpage
(charge for download). If this is artistic talent, it's not the type that merits an Oscar. C. Heston Interview. Having
created the desired impression, Moore follows with his Heston interview. Heston's memory of the Flint event is foggy (he
says it was an early morning event, and that they then went on to the next rally; in fact the rally was at 6 - 7:30 PM.
and the last event of the day.). Heston's lack of recall is not surprising; it was one rally in a nine-stop tour of
three States in three days. Moore, who had plenty of time to prepare, continues the impression he has created,
asking Heston misleading questions such as: "After that happened you came to Flint to hold a big rally and, you
know, I just, did you feel it was being at all insensitive to the fact that this community had just gone through this
tragedy?" Moore continues, "you think you'd like to apologize to the people in Flint for coming and doing that
at that time?" Moore knows the real sequence, and knows that Heston does not. Moore takes full advantage. As
noted above, Moore's deception works on reviewers. In fact, when Heston says he did not know about Kayla's shooting when
he went to Flint, viewers see Heston as an inept liar: "Then, he [Heston] and his ilk held ANOTHER gun-rally
shortly after another child/gun tragedy in Flint, MI where a 6-year old child shot and killed a 6-year old classmate
(Heston claims in the final interview of the film that he didn't know this had just happened when he appeared)."
[Click here for original] Bowling persuaded these viewers by deceiving them. Moore's creative skills are used to
convince the viewer that things happened which did not and that a truthful man is a liar when he denies them. A
further question: is the end of the Heston interview faked? 3. Animated sequence equating NRA with KKK. In an animated
history send-up, with the narrator talking rapidly, Bowling equates the NRA with the Klan, suggesting NRA was founded in
1871, "the same year that the Klan became an illegal terrorist organization." Bowling goes on to depict
Klansmen becoming the NRA and an NRA character helping to light a burning cross. This sequence is intended to create
the impression either that NRA and the Klan were parallel groups or that when the Klan was outlawed its members formed
the NRA. Both impressions are not merely false, but directly opposed to the real facts. Fact: The NRA was founded
in 1871 -- by act of the New York Legislature, at request of former Union officers. The Klan was founded in 1866, and
quickly became a terrorist organization. One might claim that while it was an organization and a terrorist one, it
technically became an "illegal" such with passage of the federal Ku Klux Klan Act and Enforcement Act in 1871.
These criminalized interference with civil rights, and empowered the President to use troops to suppress the Klan.
(Although we'd have to acknowledge that murder, terror and arson were illegal long before that time -- the Klan hadn't
been operating legally until 1871, it was operating illegally with the connivance of law enforcement.) Fact: The
Klan Act and Enforcement Act were signed into law by President Ulysess S. Grant. Grant used their provisions vigorously,
suspending habeas corpus and deploying troops; under his leadership over 5,000 arrests were made and the Klan was dealt
a serious (if all too short-lived) blow. Fact: Grant's vigor in disrupting the Klan earned him unpopularity among
many whites, but Frederick Douglass praised him, and an associate of Douglass wrote that African-Americans "will
ever cherish a grateful remembrance of his name, fame and great services." Fact: After Grant left the White
House, the NRA elected him as its eighth president. Fact: After Grant's term, the NRA elected General Philip
Sheridan, who had removed the governors of Texas and Lousiana for failure to suppress the KKK. Fact: The affinity
of NRA for enemies of the Klan is hardly surprising. The NRA was founded by former Union officers, and eight of its
first ten presidents were Union veterans. Fact: During the 1950s and 1960s, groups of blacks organized as NRA
chapters in order to obtain surplus military rifles to fight off Klansmen. ..4. Shooting at Buell Elementary School in
Michigan. Bowling depicts the juvenile shooter who killed Kayla Rolland as a sympathetic youngster, from a struggling
family, who just found a gun in his uncle's house and took it to school. "No one knew why the little boy wanted to
shoot the little girl." Fact: The little boy was the class thug, already suspended from school for stabbing
another kid with a pencil, and had fought with Kayla the day before. Since the incident, he has stabbed another child
with a knife. Fact: The uncle's house was the family business -- the neighborhood crack-house. The gun was stolen
and was purchased by the uncle in exchange for drugs.The shooter's father was already serving a prison term for theft
and drug offenses. A few weeks later police busted the shooter's grandmother and aunt for narcotics sales. After police
hauled the family away, the neighbors applauded the officers. This was not a nice but misunderstood family.
Links:1., 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 5. The Taliban and American Aid. In discussing military assistance to various
countries, Bowling asserts that the U.S. gave $245 million in aid to Taliban-ruled Afghanistan in 2000 and 2001.
Fact: The aid in question was humanitarian assistance, given through UN and nongovernmental organizations, to relieve
famine in Afghanistan. [Various numbers are given for the amount of the aid, and some say several million went for
clearing landmines.] 6. International Comparisons. To pound home its point, Bowling flashes a dramatic count of gun
homicides in various countries: Canada 165, Germany 381, Australia 65, Japan 39, US 11,127. Now that's raw numbers, not
rates -- Here's why he doesn't talk rates. Verifying the figures was difficult, since Moore does not give a year for
them. A lot of Moore's numbers didn't check out for any period I could find. As a last effort at checking, I did a
Google search for each number and the word "gun" or words "gun homicides" Many traced -- only back
to webpages repeating Bowling's figures. Moore is the only one using these numbers. Germany: Bowling says 381: 1995
figures put homicides at 1,476, about four times what Bowling claims, and gun homicides at 168, about half what it
claims: it's either far too high or far too low. ( Jörg Altmeppen has emailed me a link to a German site putting the
figure at Moore's 381, in 1998 -- I have to depend upon his translation here, as German is one of the languages in which
I can only curse.). Australia: Bowling says 65. This is very close, albeit picking the year to get the data
desired. Between 1980-1995, firearm homicides varied from 64-123, although never exactly 65. In 2000, it was 64, which
was proudly proclaimed as the lowest number in the country's history. US: Bowling says 11,127. FBI figures put it a
lot lower. They report gun homicides were 8,719 in 2001, 8,661 in 2000, 8,480 in 1999. (2001 UCR, p. 23). Here's the
table: [You can download the entire report, in .pdf format, by clicking here; look for pt. 2 at p.23.] To be
utterly fair, this is a count of the 13,752 homicides for which police submitted supplemental data (including weapon
used): the total homicide count was 15,980. But what weapon, if any, was used in the other homicide is unknown to us,
and was unknown to Moore. After an email tip, I finally found a way to compute precisely 11,127. Ignore the
FBI, use Nat'l Center for Health Statistics figures. These are based on doctors' death certificates rather than police
investigation. Then -- to their gun homicide figures, add the figure for legally-justified homicides: self-
defense and police use against criminals. Presto, you have exactly Moore's 11,127. I can see no other way for him to get
it. Since Moore appears to use police figures for the other countries, it's hardly a valid comparison. More to
the point, it's misleading since it includes self-defense and police: when we talk of a gun homicide problem we hardly
have in mind a woman defending against a rapist, or a cop taking out an armed robber. Canada: Moore's number is
correct for 1999, a low point, but he ignores some obvious differences. Bias. I wanted to talk about fabrication,
not about bias, but I've gotten emails asking why I didn't mention that Switzerland requires almost all adult males to
have guns, but has a lower homicide rate than Great Britain, or that Japanese-Americans, with the same proximity to guns
as other Americans, have homicide rates half that of Japan itself. (And, after posting this, got an email saying that
Switzerland doesn't require all adult males to own guns -- not everyone is in the national militia. Here's an
encyclopedia reference to their system. 36% of entire population is enrolled in the militia -- which must mean a very
great part of the adult male population, " All of Swiss society celebrates shooting, and skill with the rifle. For
example, each year Zurich shuts down a whole day for its "Boys' Shooting Festival."" Sounds like a plan
to me.) And, oh, yes, there is an extremely interesting paper by Canadian criminologist Gary Mauser, presented at a
colloquium in, appropriately enough, the Tower of London, and addressing international comparisons of firearms laws and
firearm crime rates. I highly recommend reading, if you're interested in serious research rather than Moore's flashing
numbers. Okay, they're mentioned, now back to our regularly scheduled program. Actually, international comparisons lead
to some interesting points. Here's a webpage which gives worldwide homicide rates. The U.S. comes in at 23rd place. It
only made the list by edging out Armenia and Bulgaria. Its former rival as a superpower, the states of the former Soviet
Union, absolutely flatten it in this competition. Russia has four times the US rate. Ukraine and Estonia have twice its
rate. Even Poland ranks higher. South Africa's showing is ten times the US rate! Hmm-- another point from a different
section of that site. In rape rates per 1000 population, the US ranks ninth, at .32, just ahead of Iceland and Papua New
Guinea. Canada is fifth, at .75, over double the US rate, and Australia is third with .80. 7. Miscellaneous. Even the
Canadian government is jumping in. Bowling shows Moore casually buying ammunition at an Ontario Walmart. He asks us to
"look at what I, a foreign citizen, was able to do at a local Canadian Wal-Mart." He buys several boxes of
ammunition without a question being raised. "That's right. I could buy as much ammunition as I wanted, in
Canada." Canadian officials have pointed out that the buy is faked or illegal: Canadian law has since, 1998,
required ammunition buyers to present proper identification. Since Jan. 1, 2001, (sorry--link broke--it was a Canadian
government info site) it has required non-Canadians to present a firearms borrowing or importation license, too.
(Bowling appears to have been filmed in mid and late 2001). While we're at it: Bowling shows footage of a B-52 on
display at the Air Force Academy, while Moore scornfully intones that the plaque under it "proudly proclaims that
the plane killed Vietnamese people on Christmas Eve of 1972." The plaque actually reads that "Flying out
of Utapao Royal Thai Naval Airfield in southeast Thailand, the crew of 'Diamond Lil' shot down a MIG northeast of Hanoi
during 'Linebacker II' action on Christmas eve 1972." This is pretty mild compared to the rest of Bowling, but the
viewer can't even trust Moore to honestly read a monument. (As Spinsanity notes, Moore goes even farther in his add-on
DVD. There, he tells us, "And they've got a plaque on there proudly proclaiming that this bomber, this B-52, killed
thousands upon thousands of Vietnamese -- innocent civilians.") 8. Race. Moore does not directly state that Heston
is a racist--he is the master of creating the false impression --but reviewers come away saying "Heston looks like
an idiot, and a racist one at that" Source. "BTW, one thing the Heston interview did clear up, that man is
shockingly racist." Source. The remarks stem from Heston's answer (after Moore keeps pressing for why the US
has more violence than other countries) that it might be due to the US "having a more mixed ethnicity" than
other nations, and "We had enough problems with civil rights in the beginning." A viewer who accepts Moore's
theme that gun ownership is driven by racial fears might conclude that Heston is blaming blacks and the civil rights
movement. But if you look at some history missing from Bowling, you get exactly the opposite picture. Heston is
talking, not about race, but about racism. In the early 1960s, the civil rights movement was fighting for acceptance.
Civil rights workers were being murdered. The Kennedy Administration, trying to hold together a Democratic coalition
that ranged from liberals to fire-eater segregationists such as George Wallace and Lester Maddox, found the issue too
hot to touch, and offered little support. Heston got involved. He picketed discriminating restaurants. He worked
with Martin Luther King, and helped King break Hollywood's color barrier (yes, there was one.). He led the actors'
component of King's 1963 march in Washington, which set the stage for the key civil rights legislation in 1964.
Here's Heston's comments at the 2001 Congress on Racial Equality Martin Luther King dinner (presided over by NRA
director, and CORE President, Roy Innes). More on Heston. Most of the viewers were born long after the events
Heston is recalling. To them, the civil rights struggle consists of Martin Luther King speaking, people singing "We
Shall Overcome," and everyone coming to their senses. Heston remembers what it was really like. If Heston
fails to explain this in Bowling, we've got to note that Moore (despite his claim that he left the interview almost
unedited) cut a lot of the interview out. Watch closely and you'll see a clock on the wall near Moore's head. When it's
first seen, the time is about 5:47. When Heston finally walks out, it reads about 6:10. That's 23 minutes. I clocked the
Heston interview in Bowling at 5 1/4 minutes. About three-quarters of what Heston did say was trimmed out. [Why the
clock indicates six o'clock, when Moore is specific that he showed up for the interview at 8:30 AM, will have to await
another investigation!] 9. Fear. Bowling probably has a good point when it suggests that the media feeds off fear in a
search for the fast buck. For an interesting analysis of this, showing how crime news skyrocketed (largely displacing
international coverage) even as crime fell, click here. Bowling cites some examples: the razor blades in Halloween
apples scare, the flesh-eating bacteria scare, etc. The examples are taken straight from Barry Glassner's excellent book
on the subject, "The Culture of Fear," and Moore interviews Glassner on-camera for the point. Then Moore
does exactly what he condemns in the media. Given the prominence of schoolyard killings as a theme in Bowling for
Columbine, Moore must have asked Glassner about that subject. Whatever Glassner said is, however, left on the cutting-
room floor. That's because Glassner lists schoolyard shootings as one of the mythical fears. He points out that
"More than three times as many people are killed by lightning as by violence at schools." This is as close as
Moore comes to having a thesis, an explanation for homicide rate differences. But here he falls flat on his face. As one
of his interviewees notes, over a period when homicide rates were falling, media coverage of murder increased by 600%.
Okay, flip it around. When media coverage of homicides increased 600%, homicide rates fell. So much for Moore's
explanation. In fact, so much for all of his attempted explanations. During the 1990s, homicide rates in the US went
into their steepest decline in decades, with handgun homicides leading the way. That was the same period that saw the
welfare reform laws, the bombing in Serbia, several million firearms sold each year -- everything, in short, that Moore
condemns. (For one source, just go back up the page to the FBI statistics: between 1997 and 2001, firearm homicides fell
from 10,729 to 8,719, and 1997 was after the biggest drop had occured. I suppose we might go farther, and ask if
Moore's film is not illustrative of what it condemns. Moore argues that the media (a) distorts reality, and (b) hypes
fear of other Americans, because (c) fear is good for a fast buck. Moore distorts reality, hypes fear of other Americans
("are we nation of gun nuts, or just nuts?") and, well, made several million fast bucks. 10. Guns (supposedly
the point of the film). A point worth making (although not strictly on theme here): Bowling's theme is, rather
curiously, not opposed to firearms ownership. After making out Canada to be a haven of nonviolence, Moore asks why. He
proclaims that Canada has "a tremendous amount of gun ownership," somewhat under one gun per household. He
visits Canadian shooting ranges, gun stores, and in the end proclaims "Canada is a gun loving, gun toting, gun
crazy country!" Or as he put it elsewhere, "then I learned that Canada has 7 million guns but they don't kill
each other like we do. I thought, gosh, that's uncomfortably close to the NRA position: Guns don't kill people, people
kill people." Bowling concludes that Canada isn't peaceful because it lacks guns and gun nuts -- it has lots of
those -- but because the Canadian mass media isn't into constant hyping of fear and loathing, and the American media is.
(One problem). Which leaves us to wonder why the Brady Campaign/Million Moms issued a press release. congratulating
Moore on his Oscar nomination. Or does Bowling have a hidden punch line, and in the end the joke is on them? One
possible explanation: did Bowling begin as one movie, and end up as another? Incidentally, Moore has issued a webpage
responding to criticism. In so doing, he actually admits that much of the above criticism is accurate. He did splice the
Willie Horton ad, and Heston's "cold dead hands" was never spoken at Denver, and his statistics do stem from
those of the Center for Disease Control, which include self-defense and police shootings of perps. As far as the rest of
the criticisms above -- strange, but Moore doesn't have an answer. Here's my response. Conclusion The point is not
that Bowling is unfair, or lacking in objectivity. The point is far more fundamental: Bowling for Columbine is
dishonest. It is fraudulent. To trash Heston, it even uses the audio/video editor to assemble a Heston speech that
Heston did not give, and sequences images and carefully highlighted text to spin the viewer's mind to a wrong
conclusion. If there is art in this movie, it is a dishonest art. Moore does not inform his readers: he plays them like
a violin. A further thought, on a topic far broader (no pun intended) than Moore. Moore's film is unquestionably
popular. He's attracted an almost-cult following. And judging from the emails I've received, plenty of his followers
don't care a bit about whether they were misled. Can broader lessons be learned from this? Suppose for a moment that
Moore's behavior can be explained as a product of Narcisstic Personality Disorder, that he fits the clinical symptoms to
a T, that indeed Bowling is a grand acting out of this character disorder. Does its popularity suggest something of far
greater concern than one more narcissist in Hollywood? And does that in turn hold a key to mass slayings?Click here for
some thoughts on that score. David T. Hardy [an amateur who has for the last year been working on a serious bill of
rights documentary], to include the Second Amendment. dthardy at mindspring.com ["at" instead of
"@" used to confuse those blasted spam robots] P.S.: I don't have Moore's $4 million budget (and wound up
paying over a thousand in bandwidth overruns, before I found a new host), but if you could see the way to contribute ten
or twenty dollars to this research, and to preparing a real documentary, please click below. "A prudent man
foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the
consequences." - Proverbs 22:3
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Posted by Anonymous on Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:48 PM Post subject: Card making
Hi there - I live in Australia and I was trying to find card making groups to tell people about a new website my card
making friends and I have created. It's dedicated to card makers! We are not a shop and we don't sell craft material.
We share our card making ideas to give other people ideas. What started off as a hobby has now developed into an
obsession!!! Wondering if you would like to check out our website and if you like it, please tell all your fellow card
making friends. The address is: www.smartartcards.com We are very proud of our site as it showcases our "works of
art". Hope you like it and if so, spread the word!!!! Regards Denise Smart Art Cards
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Posted by OG on Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:38 AM Post subject: Re: Card Making
Hi Georgia I have found books a great resource. If you have access to a library, try borrowing a few books to get an
idea of what is useful for you and what you like. If a library is not near, go to the bookstore and take a good browse
before you buy, since some books are more instructional than others. As well some may not suit your particular style.
One book I swear by is: The papercrafter's bible by Elizabeth Mold. It highlights several techniques that can be used in
card making. Regards Georgia wrote: [quote:bec187f65f]Hi, I'm new to creating cards and wondered if anyone had ideas
of where to find information on the basic principles of it. All help and advice is appreciated.[/quote:bec187f65f]
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